Re:Counterterrorism internet surveillance is being retargete...
by rayiner on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:31AM
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That’s exactly the point though—where is the evidence that churches are doing “much worse per unit of youth exposure?” OP is the one engaging in motivated reasoning—the top post doesn’t even attempt to make a comparison against the base rate of sexual abuse of children, which is unfortunately extremely high.
Re:Counterterrorism internet surveillance is being retargete...
by mlyle on Sunday July 30, 2023 @12:33PM
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Actually, they've provided evidence (somewhat flawed) that you've tried to wave away with other evidence/preferring another rate (that seems more flawed to me).
Religious organizations have a) smaller number of personnel, b) fewer youth contacts in total, c) lower hours of contact per average youth than your comparison organizations. We can debate about the importance of each of these in the denominator, but they're all signifiers.
Worse, you're trying to compare numbers for schools that include student-on-student sexual violence (the vast majority of cases) to complaints against staff and clergy for churches.
It's obvious there's problems with either rate you'd choose for either task.
We have varying degrees of exposure / vulnerability within the populations. Neither one really directly leads to a "risk per unit of exposure of child" or "risk of a given person being an offender".
But it seems like you have some pretty motivated reasoning going on: it sure looks like religious organizations have not done well, and are relatively likely to be much worse per unit of youth exposure.