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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by pengaru on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:42PM (#36924971)

  >     Many Japanese soldiers were soon on their way home from their bases
  > around Japan and were beginning to crowd the trains and buses.  It was
  > difficult for some of them to understand the surrender.  Although most of
  > the Japanese army in the field was still unbeaten, it was stretched thin
  > all across Asia.  The string of horrendous losses at Leyte, Iwo Jima,
  > Saipan, and Okinawa and America's superior air power against the home
  > islands and the use of atomic weapons were evidence enough that the war
  > could not be won.  And then, of course, when the Soviet Union entered the
  > war against Japan after the Hiroshima bomb, there was great fear that our
  > old hypothetical enemy would take advantage of our weakened condition and
  > try to occupy us.  The Soviets seized the southern half of Sakhalin island
  > and four islands just north of Hokkaido - the closest one is in sight of
  > the Japanese mainland - and they still hold them today.  The United States
  > returned Okinawa, which they seized in 1945, to Japanese sovereignty in
  > 1972.
  >
  >     In 1945 the Russians stormed into Manchuria - our buffer against them
  > for so many years - when our forces were relatively small and weakened,
  > unable to defend against massive Russian armor.  There was chaos as
  > Japanese civilians and soldiers tried to escape from the Russians, but in
  > the end about five hundred thousand Japanese soldiers were taken prisoner
  > and sent to labor camps in Siberia and other places in the Soviet Union.
  > Some of them remained prisoners and virtual slave laborers for as long as
  > twelve years.
  >  ...
  > There are those who say to this day that the emperor's decision to
  > surrender was brought about almost as much by the fear of the Soviets - the
  > fear that they might invade the home islands or partition the country, as
  > had been done to Germany - as by the horrible events at Hiroshima and
  > Nagasaki.
  >
  > - MADE IN JAPAN AKIO MORITA and SONY (c) 1986  (any typos are mine)
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1008101.Made_in_Japan
Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by gre on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:08PM (#36925215)
According to British historian Mark Felton:

"The Japanese murdered 30 million civilians while "liberating" what it called the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere from colonial rule. About 23 million of these were ethnic Chinese. It is a crime that in sheer numbers is far greater than the Nazi Holocaust. In Germany, Holocaust denial is a crime. In Japan, it is government policy. But the evidence against the navy – precious little of which you will find in Japan itself – is damning."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#:~:text=....

Crimes all around. War is bad, actually?

Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by pengaru on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:24PM (#36925351)
> Crimes all around. War is bad, actually?

I'm not sure why this is in response to my comment, which speaks nothing of war crimes nor has anything resembling an accusatory tone, nor does it excuse Japan as innocent.

The excerpt in my comment was transcribed and posted because it speaks to the Soviet Union's entering the war in-context, relative to the atomic bombings, from a Japanese perspective.

Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by gre on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:27PM (#36925394)
Good point. I thought you were emphasizing the labor camp aspect of it.