'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, set for July 30

Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by Knee_Pain on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:41PM (#36924335)

A movie about Oppenheimer's life should be about... the immediate fallout of the bomb on the Japanese population?

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by mcpackieh on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:53PM (#36924446)

I think his role in that overshadows the rest of his life.

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by Knee_Pain on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:17PM (#36924712)

I think he was a human with a rich multi-faceted life and this line of reasoning is exactly how we arrive in 2023 with people who, for instance, don't know about Columbus' genocides because "discovering America overshadowed the rest of his life so we didn't bother to cover it in school".

Yeah, no.

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by mcpackieh on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:01PM (#36925138)

Better for a Columbus movie to focus on the genocides than his sex life, no?

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by wiseowise on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:08PM (#36925211)

A movie about Oppenheimer should’ve at least shown what haunted him and weight of his decisions, not one minute (!) of Oppenheimer watching some background video showing surprised face like on this video.

https://youtu.be/6pc0u-iqIDw

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by spacephysics on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:39PM (#36924314)

The movie was based off a book, which was about Oppenheimer hence the title.

I thought it was amazing, sure some parts were a bit long.

Makes sense if the movie Hiroshima is more focused on Hiroshima than Oppenheimer.

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by wahnfrieden on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:41PM (#36924343)

I disliked the anarchism erasure of portraying the Spanish civil war as a communist cause

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by vouwfietsman on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:50PM (#36924417)

Good point, was it understood in the US as anarchism at the time, though?

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by throwawaymaths on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:16PM (#36924711)

Communism is an anarchist philosophy, at it's root. If it seems a bit weird because (IIRC) this historical dialectic goes:

- bourgeois revolution

- Workers revolution

- Bigger state

- Even bigger state

- Underpants gnomes

- Anarchist utopia

Only half joking... this is what turn of the last century communists believed.

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by warkdarrior on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:25PM (#36924810)

As the saying goes, if everyone is part of the state, nobody is part of the state. At some scale, human organizations start to break down.

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by wahnfrieden on Sunday July 30, 2023 @09:32AM (#36930997)

anarchists (well maybe except for insurrectionist anarchists) believe in communism as an outcome, but they most definitely do not agree with vanguardism as a means of achieving it. vanguardism is just a kind of elitist authoritarianism.

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by throwawaymaths on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:10PM (#36935415)

I would phrase it this way: (non-communist) anarchists believe in communal living as an outcome

Aware that this isn't historically accurate terminology but very few people will appreciate the nuances your definitions requires, as the modern meanings have diverged

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by FirmwareBurner on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:01PM (#36924531)

>This is what Oppenheimer should’ve been about

The movie called "Oppenheimer" is mainly about Oppenheimer (shocking, right?), it's not about "the bomb", otherwise it would have been called "Trinity" or "Manhattan" or something.

If you want to see a movie about "the bomb" don't watch Oppenheimer.

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by wiseowise on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:12PM (#36925243)

> During World War II, Lt. Gen. Leslie Groves Jr. appoints physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer to work on the top-secret Manhattan Project. Oppenheimer and a team of scientists spend years developing and designing the atomic bomb. Their work comes to fruition on July 16, 1945, as they witness the world's first nuclear explosion, forever changing the course of history.

Literally from the description of the movie.

It promised work of Oppenheimer and team of scientists working on the Manhattan project. Instead it’s a shitty avengers rip off where Oppenheimer assembles team of scientists without any substance and literally no focus on Manhattan project.

I expected to see at least the Imitation Game level movie, not subpar plot focused on sex and politics.

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Re:'Phantom' A-bomb film 'Hiroshima,' with 88,000 extras, se... by nonrepeating on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:22PM (#36924779)

The film was fascinating, quite nuanced, and beautifully shot. It’s about people, their relationships, and the evolution of their worldviews much more than it was about a detonation.

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