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Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by lionkor on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:11PM (#36924060)
Driving in Amsterdam sucks, parking costs you your leg per five minutes, bikes are very agressive, pedestrians fill the roads because there is more tourism than the city was designed for.

Its one of the worst places in NL I've been, from a driving perspective.

Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by fragmede on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:10PM (#36924641)
Good. The fewer cars for frivolous purposes, the better
Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by smodo on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:28PM (#36924842)
I don’t like it either but it’s very easy to get around if you aren’t in a car. So a good example.
Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by Moldoteck on Sunday July 30, 2023 @01:17AM (#36928067)
That's the point. Maintaining car infra is expensive, so owning a car should be expensive and discouraged. That's why there using a car to get to a destination usually is much slower compared to a bike. Cars are still allowed for the people that either really need them or don't need them but are willing to pay extra But I agree that Utrecht is a better city bc of less tourists and even more bike infra
Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by lionkor on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:44AM (#36928825)
Of course, and I admire that, but its therefore not a good example of a city where cars, pedestrians and bikes coexist (because its not meant to be one)
Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by Moldoteck on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:28AM (#36929418)
Why? All of them coexist and most efficient ones get preferential treatment, for example priority on intersections/semaphores, more direct/shorter paths for mass transit and bikes What's not that good is the train quality/frequency/price, for this Switzerland is much better (pricey but good quality and frequent), but NL is still ahead of many countries even in this regard