Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity
by paulcole on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:16PM
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I don’t think I called anyone a loser.
It’s fine for people to say they want to do something and then not do it.
I’m just saying that it can be done. Either do it or don’t.
> Yes, but why would they when a thing is painful and unpleasant?
Because sometimes things that are painful and unpleasant have benefits that outweigh the pain and unpleasantness?
Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity
by fnimick on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:41PM
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Perhaps when those things have a benefit to society, we should invest in infrastructure to make them more pleasant, rather than browbeating people as lazy if they don't brave urban arterial roads to walk to a grocery store?
Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity
by paulcole on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:19PM
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I’m not saying they’re lazy or browbeating anyone.
I’m saying they’re lying to themselves. Nothing wrong with that. Whatever it takes to get through life. I lie to myself about a lot of things to make the days go by easier.
But yeah, wait for those infrastructure investments to come and tell yourself that once they’re here you’ll walk more. Or go out and walk today. Or don’t. Doesn’t really matter at all.
Yes, but why would they when a thing is painful and unpleasant? There's other ways to get around or get exercise, people will default to things that are nice and convenient.
> If you want to walk and have two legs that work, don’t whine about wishing walking didn’t suck. Get out and walk.
Incredibly nonsensical dismissal. Let's see how silly your reasoning is:
"Americans just don't wanna walk, no matter what."
"People don't do X because it sucks, if it didn't suck more people would do it."
"Doesn't matter, suck it up and do it anyway loser"
Wow, we sure learned a lot there. Do you teach gym class maybe?
We're talking about a systemic problem. Insulting people isn't gonna get the population to walk more, shockingly enough.