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Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by eddd-ddde on Saturday July 29, 2023 @01:48PM (#36922685)
The nice thing is there's an even better way of decreasing crash fatalities. Just decrease the amount of driving.
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Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by vorpalhex on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:55PM (#36924471)
Sure and we can fix computer security by confiscating all computers.

Not much of a realistic fix, is it?

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Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by Guvante on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:01PM (#36925139)
Not comparable.

Driving isn't intrinsic. Transportation is important but has multiple solutions.

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Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by dymk on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:11PM (#36925235)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_transit

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Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by brightlancer on Saturday July 29, 2023 @08:09PM (#36926246)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand

Mass transit will NOT reduce auto transit: any driver who chooses to take mass transit will be replaced by a new driver on the road.

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Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by dymk on Monday July 31, 2023 @12:05AM (#36938704)
Go read the page you just linked, but more closely. Induced demand is relevant to adding more car lanes, not dedicated bus lanes and other off-grade transit.

Civilized countries already solved this problem.

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Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by iggldiggl on Friday August 04, 2023 @03:41PM (#37004864)
Freed-up capacity is freed-up capacity, no matter whether it was created by building an additional lane or by motivating some people to switch to alternative modes of transport. If enough people switch to public transport to noticeable reduce congestion, the reduced congestion makes driving more attractive again, so some people will switch back to driving, or people who used to drive anyway will now make longer trips, etc.

So if you're just building out transit while keeping road capacity the same (less common with dedicated bus lanes or light rail, because space for those is often created by converting former car lanes, but with "other off-grade transit" modes you need to make a conscious effort of reducing road capacity if reduced car usage is your goal), it's entirely possible that public transport use increases, while passenger miles travelled by car remain the roughly same long-term.

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Re:If we want a shift to walking we need to prioritize dignity by zach_miller on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:18PM (#36925308)
Decrease, not eliminate. Even for computers. Do light bulbs really need computers? If not, why increase my network’s attack surface area?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191023075139.h...

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