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Re:Hugging Face, GitHub and more unite to defend open source... by oytis on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:10AM (#36918356)
I would appreciate a read about people behind EU technology regulation rage. Are there any specific lobbying group behind that or is it just some form of collective thinking?

I might be bad at web search, but I couldn't find a single human name on EU AI act - and, FWIW, GDPR.

Re:Hugging Face, GitHub and more unite to defend open source... by nologic01 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @07:04AM (#36919000)
Its a shadowy groupthink behavior that encompasses the european parliament, the eu member state government executive branches and the EU commission itself (as all must agree for EU wide legislation).

A cunning trick to spread responsibility widely so that you can not hold anybody to account.

I believe they call it democracy or some other such arcane and outdated term.

Re:Hugging Face, GitHub and more unite to defend open source... by oytis on Saturday July 29, 2023 @07:30AM (#36919171)
Democracy requires transparency about how decisions are made, so that I could vote based on whether I support people's and parties' actions. E.g. if a law is proposed in German parliament it's pretty much open information who introduced it, who objected with what arguments, who supported it with what arguments etc. Either I am missing something or EU structures are much less transparent
Re:Hugging Face, GitHub and more unite to defend open source... by nologic01 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @09:39AM (#36920200)
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/legislative-train/ and other similar links.

There is vast amount of transparency available online, even in real time. Certainly who proposes what, which party groups vote for what etc.

Its not perfect but you original comment way of the mark.

Re:Hugging Face, GitHub and more unite to defend open source... by pravus on Saturday July 29, 2023 @08:01AM (#36919397)
It is the iron law of oligarchy.
Re:Hugging Face, GitHub and more unite to defend open source... by troupo on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:52PM (#36922085)
> I might be bad at web search, but I couldn't find a single human name on EU AI act - and, FWIW, GDPR.

Because you're bad at search I believe.

1. Many laws "don't have a human face" because they are more often than not the result of committees working for several years. Who then presents the law in the parliament is largely irrelevant. Do you believe US laws have a human face?

2. If you go to https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20230505IP... you can do the following:

- click on "Legislative train" to see people: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/legislative-train/theme-a-eur...

- click on "Draft reports, amendments tabled in committee" and see people: https://emeeting.europarl.europa.eu/emeeting/committee/en/ag... And there you can click on each person and see who they are and where they come from.