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Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by throwaway290 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:50AM (#36918268)
> iCloud Backup (non e2ee by default)

I don't see any option to enable e2ee iCloud Backup on iOS 16.6, does this mean your information is outdated and it's all e2ee now?

Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by vages on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:04AM (#36918332)
It’s called “advanced data protection”. You’ll find it hidden deep within the iCloud settings.

It’s off by default.

Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by suumcuique on Saturday July 29, 2023 @05:17AM (#36918384)
Wow, thanks for mentioning this. I was also under the impression it was e2ee by default but it was actually disabled for me.
Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by bbarnett on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:59AM (#36918955)
Interesting. FYI, I'm not an apple user, but no upset that some are.

I wonder. Is this an attempt to market? Make it optional, but tout "we do this!', as if it is?

It's not a bad marketing position.

Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by Twisell on Saturday July 29, 2023 @07:36AM (#36919214)
Actually there is a third option, don't back-up your iMessage to iCloud in the first place. In this configuration you need to transfer your content from device to device using a local backup if you intend to keep your messages.

You the have the same level of privacy (if not higher) than with ADP. But with the same drawback, if your recipient does backup to iCloud without ADP then messages can be intercept by apple at rest on your recipient iCloud backup.

Incidentally ADP mainly target users that didn't trusted iCloud backup for the lack of e2e encryption at rest.

Re:The U.K. Government Is Close to Eroding Encryption Worldwide by throwaway290 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @07:22AM (#36919111)
More prosaically it's probably because turning it on means it's easier to lose access to your data if you lose devices/keys. Apple can't help you if they don't have the keys. It's not a bad marketing position.