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Re:Play Deprivation Is a Major Cause of the Teen Mental Heal... by evandale on Friday July 28, 2023 @04:29PM (#36912852)
I didn't beat anything into submission.

I set ground rules and gave her safe ways to be upset. If she misbehaved she lost privileges she enjoys.

I never neglected her if that's what you're trying to get at. That's a pretty low-blow to accuse me of based on what I wrote. Be better.

Obviously locking children in rooms isn't right. How about this, instead of locking kids in a room, you could try making a toy room and locking them OUT if they're misbehaving. Is that inhumane torture? That's basically what I did with my cat.

Re:Play Deprivation Is a Major Cause of the Teen Mental Heal... by IanCal on Friday July 28, 2023 @04:57PM (#36913222)
"beating into submission" is a phrase that does not mean physically beating.

> I never neglected her if that's what you're trying to get at.

If you did that to a child it would be neglect, that is the point. Children aren't cats.

It is more complex with a child. It's easier when they're a baby, but increasingly more subtle as they get older. Nobody is saying you can't take things away from them or set boundaries, but you're talking about very simple things that may work with very young children but aren't enough as they get older.

"Do as I say because I am the boss" is just not good enough. Maybe you'll get compliance but that's not enough if you want a healthy relationship with your child as they grow.

Re:Play Deprivation Is a Major Cause of the Teen Mental Heal... by evandale on Friday July 28, 2023 @08:39PM (#36915465)
> "Do as I say because I am the boss" is just not good enough.

When did I make that argument?

For the record, I don't believe you should tell children that. I don't understand the difficulty in telling them "The iPad broke and you are not getting another one because you can't take care of it properly. Perhaps you'll get a new one at Christmas." when they break their iPad.

That's what I consider being a boss.

Re:Play Deprivation Is a Major Cause of the Teen Mental Heal... by c22 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @10:14AM (#36920527)
You brought up your anecdote about your cat in a thread about children and child-rearing. It's absurd to accuse people of straw-manning you just for assuming you meant to draw parallels between children and cats.
Re:Play Deprivation Is a Major Cause of the Teen Mental Heal... by em-bee on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:01PM (#36915618)
it's not "Do as I say because I am the boss", it is "stop your behavior because it is not appropriate". children need to have boundaries. if those boundaries are crossed there must be consequences. when my kids argue over who gets to use the computer, i take the computer away until they calm down and settle their disagreement.