Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by loumf on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:19AM
(#36906353)
It could have been simply some data put in the keychain. That persists through app deletion.
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Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by BillinghamJ on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:58AM
(#36906866)
It used to. They have largely changed that now - all data is deleted once the last app from a given vendor has been deleted (though it's not instant, and seems to apply weirdly on TestFlight + ad-hoc builds)
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by ChrisMarshallNY on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:37AM
(#36907426)
On the app I'm writing, keychain info remains.
I have a specific debug setting to wipe the keychain.
Sign in with Apple also generates a persistent ID with each app. That could be used to fingerprint the user, but not the device.
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by sumuyuda on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:34AM
(#36907379)
I think this behavior hasn’t changed: https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/36442
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by ec109685 on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:58AM
(#36907732)
Everything in this space is so muddled. Deleting the last app from a vendor should erase that data. On the other hand, if you restore your phone from another device, that should never require relogging into anything.
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by RulerOf on Friday July 28, 2023 @05:24PM
(#36913556)
I used to go out of my way to take encrypted iTunes backups because it restored app state perfectly.
After some iOS release though, every app started doing "new phone, who dis" regardless of the restoration strategy, so I stopped wasting my time.
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by dunham on Friday July 28, 2023 @06:30PM
(#36914255)
Yeah, last I checked, encrypted itunes backups would keep the "this device only" keychain data. Which would only work when restored to the same device - it needs the UID key from the secure enclave to decode. (I wrote code a few years ago to decrypt the rest of the keychain.)
At one point, google authenticator started marking its entries as "this device only". I don't know if they've backed off on that since then.
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by fauigerzigerk on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:56AM
(#36907697)
No, I tried to completely delete Tiktok. It's impossible.
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by joshmanders on Friday July 28, 2023 @02:57PM
(#36911528)
I delete Facebook a few times and every time I installed the app the first screen I got prompted with was "Hello Josh, would you like to sign in with your stored details?" Not all data is scrubbed. This persisted to even today running on iOS 17 Public Beta.
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by Two4 on Friday July 28, 2023 @06:16PM
(#36914093)
Did you also delete Messenger, Instagram, Whatsapp and Threads?
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by joshmanders on Saturday July 29, 2023 @09:44AM
(#36920252)
Yes.
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by TheNewsIsHere on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:39PM
(#36935103)
I have experienced the same thing. Even when Apple made changes in Keychain policy to try to combat fingerprinting, “I never got the memo.” That sounds nuts, but I’m in the same boat.
I’ve had a few apps I’ve redownloaded months later, the only one from the developer, and my auth state was preserved.
I keep hearing that the Keychain data should be deleted, but my iCloud Keychain is filled with long-dead data
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by can16358p on Friday July 28, 2023 @07:06PM
(#36914582)
It's most probably keychain.
Re:Apple cracking down on 'fingerprinting' with new App Stor...
by bobbylarrybobby on Sunday July 30, 2023 @01:05AM
(#36928006)
Probably keychain, but maybe just iCloud?