Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by IggleSniggle on Friday July 28, 2023 @12:05AM (#36903014)

Look I don't really care about Teslas so I don't really have any idea, but the article says that Tesla does NOT use the standardized EPA-mix, but instead does their own testing and gets those tests EPA approved. The EPA spokesperson said they were following the rules, but only technically. Do you have alternate information showing that it actually is the standardized mix to produce the estimate?

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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by steveBK123 on Friday July 28, 2023 @07:54AM (#36905567)

The data alone should tell you that Tesla is up to something. Almost every real world range test shows that Tesla systematically underperforms in the real world relative to spec, worse than substantially all other carmakers.

Highway 70mph - https://insideevs.com/reviews/443791/ev-range-test-results/ Highway 75mph - https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32603216/ev-ra... Mix - https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-cons...

It's a shame too because Tesla are towards the top of the the real world range pack, so they don't really have to lie.. but it's like a compulsion for some people.

What is mind boggling and hilarious is that there's a Porsche rated EPA 225mi and a Tesla rated EPA 348mi and they both end up achieving 280mi.

Notably the Model 3/Y seem to have a wider EPA-to-reality delta than the Model S in the 75mph test. This seems to align with my 4 year ownership experience. Tesla Model 3 LR rated 310mi but only hits 200mi with C&D. It's interesting how much the 3/Y range seems to drop from 70 to 75mph.

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