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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by x86x87 on Thursday July 27, 2023 @11:28AM (#36895044)
No. Sorry. Making the claim that most tesla owners do X is in my opinion horseshit. Tesla should be ashamed of themselves and should be sued into oblivion for false advertising. This is not a +/- 5%. This is a massive lie and a coverup.
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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by panick21_ on Thursday July 27, 2023 @12:08PM (#36895730)
They use the official process. Sue the EPA.
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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by rootusrootus on Thursday July 27, 2023 @06:05PM (#36900774)
Sort of. The official process comes in a couple different flavors, and there are absolutely ways to game it. It's not like EPA is running the tests themselves, they just write the rules. Also, AFAICT there is no penalty for sandbagging (see also Porsche). Tesla could give realistic numbers but instead ran the tests in the most optimistic way possible and chose the best numbers they could plausibly claim to be EPA formula.
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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by x86x87 on Friday July 28, 2023 @12:50AM (#36903201)
The VW method!
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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by concordDance on Friday July 28, 2023 @03:08AM (#36903850)
Except the tesla numbers are realistic, you can check for yourself: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/browseList.jsp
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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by rootusrootus on Thursday July 27, 2023 @06:03PM (#36900753)
Those seem orthogonal, and not related. I assert that yes, most Tesla owners just deal with it. But yes, it's unacceptable and Tesla should be held to account for it. Both can be true.
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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by simondotau on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:07AM (#36906228)
Polestar does the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3P32TyLMMM&t=644s

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