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Re:EU opens Microsoft antitrust investigation into Teams bun... by pyrale on Thursday July 27, 2023 @11:25AM (#36894999)
> Chrome gained traction because IE was really, really bad. Now it has mindshare and you might could argue that Google maintains this mindshare with malpractice.

Chrome copied lots of stuff from Opera, and Opera had 2.5% of marketshare. Firefox (who I personally didn't enjoy as much as Opera) had benefited from a grasroots campaign had taken years to get 35% of marketshare. Both were nobrainers compared to how broken IE was, and they were on the market years before chrome.

So.. Yeah. Chrome was a good product. But competitors had showed that being a good browser without insane advertising was never going to be enough.

Re:EU opens Microsoft antitrust investigation into Teams bun... by crickey on Thursday July 27, 2023 @12:00PM (#36895591)
As far as i know Opera and Firefox are doing fine. Kind of ironic in a thread about antitrust people still peddle this idea of needing full market dominance to be considered successful.
Re:EU opens Microsoft antitrust investigation into Teams bun... by alexvoda on Thursday July 27, 2023 @12:59PM (#36896549)
The Opera GP was talking about is dead, it is now just a skin on top of Chromium. And Firefox, the only alternative to the WebKit/Blink monopoly today, has a tiny market share compared to its peak. They are definitely not doing fine.
Re:EU opens Microsoft antitrust investigation into Teams bun... by lp0_on_fire on Thursday July 27, 2023 @12:18PM (#36895870)
Opera was a _great_ browser back in its day. They had tabbed browsing before anyone (as far as I remember). The Presto engine was fast and lightweight. Overall it was a pleasure to use. I was real sad when they decided to abandon Presto and adopted chromium.
Re:EU opens Microsoft antitrust investigation into Teams bun... by pyrale on Thursday July 27, 2023 @02:12PM (#36897871)
Even before that, it was really sad when it got acquired by a shady corporation transforming it into, essentially, a malware. Back then, I moved to Firefox, and with Opera's popular features becoming the de-facto UX standard for browsers, I never moved back to Vivaldi.