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Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by stetrain on Thursday July 27, 2023 @10:18AM (#36893951)
Are you talking about the battery meter? That is just EPA range * battery percentage.

The precise estimate is in the navigation system, when you navigate to a destination and it says you will arrive with X% left. This takes into account speed, traffic, elevation, temperature, wind, etc. and is usually pretty accurate for me.

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by cevn on Thursday July 27, 2023 @10:23AM (#36894031)
Ah I see. I will check on that but you would think that as soon as you get on the highway that estimator would change. It is also the first place someone would look for range, not inside navigation so I would call that false advertising…
Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by stetrain on Thursday July 27, 2023 @10:26AM (#36894072)
I leave the battery meter set to percentage, the “miles” option is really just percentage dumbly mapped to miles.

The golden number in a Tesla Is absolutely the navigation route estimate. While navigating you can open the Energy app as well to see more detail, how you are doing compared to the estimate, and specific factors affecting consumption.

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by cevn on Thursday July 27, 2023 @10:39AM (#36894308)
I also use percentage. It's not something that I usually think about. I just know that my "real range" is 180 miles at highway speeds. That's not something they tell you when you buy a Tesla.

I also just don't use navigation if I've been somewhere more than once. Just navigate with my head..

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by stetrain on Thursday July 27, 2023 @10:47AM (#36894416)
Tesla advertises EPA range which is a mix of city and highway driving with an average speed way below normal interstate highway speeds.

I use the navigation all the time, even when I know the way, because it knows about traffic jams and so I can get a good range estimate for longer trips. It even gives you a round-trip estimate back to your starting point.

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by theFletch on Thursday July 27, 2023 @01:16PM (#36896884)
Percentage seems to be the general consensus amongst Tesla owners. The real numbers are in the navigation. We've been looking at percentage based range on gas cars forever. I would argue that gas cars with "mile" range estimates are not that accurate either. At least, that's my experience.
Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by itsoktocry on Thursday July 27, 2023 @12:50PM (#36896409)
>This takes into account speed, traffic, elevation, temperature, wind, etc

Can you expand on this? You say etc, what else is included? Where is it documented that this calculation is actually happening, versus something far simpler?

Re:Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of drivin... by stetrain on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:27AM (#36932198)
“The calculation that predicts how much energy you will use is an estimate based on driving style (predicted speed, etc.) and environmental factors (elevation changes, wind speed and direction, ambient and forecasted temperatures, air density and humidity, etc.). As you drive, Model 3 continuously learns how much energy it uses, resulting in improved accuracy over time. It is important to note that Model 3 predicts energy usage based on the driving style of the individual vehicle. For example, if you drive aggressively for a period of time, future range predictions will assume higher consumption.”

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_gb/GUID-01F1A58...

Also if you open the Energy app in the car it will show you which of these factor(s) are contributing to higher or lower consumption than the navigation’s estimated range as you go.