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Re:Breaking Superconductor News by Analemma_ on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @04:41PM (#36884687)
Room-temperature superconductors have so many urgent commercial uses that if this fake, I doubt the error will persist for that long. There's too much at stake.
Re:Breaking Superconductor News by mrguyorama on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @04:59PM (#36884940)
There's also probably a hundred labs skipping over replication completely to try and beat someone else out on a random permutation of these materials and methods and hoping to get lucky.
Re:Breaking Superconductor News by gus_massa on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @05:30PM (#36885353)
Yes, "replication" in this experiments usualy means foloeing the oficial recipe and many small variants.

Publishing an exact reproduction is difficult, but a new record a few degrees hotter is easy. (And even another variant with a lower temperature and more tolerance for current or magnetic field can be published with the right text.)

Re:Breaking Superconductor News by jacquesm on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @08:44PM (#36887302)
> but a new record a few degrees hotter is easy

Assuming one exists. Assuming it is real.

Re:Breaking Superconductor News by gus_massa on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @10:14PM (#36888049)
Yep. Easier to publish, assuming it exist and you can find it.
Re:Breaking Superconductor News by lolc on Thursday July 27, 2023 @08:41AM (#36892561)
I can't see why they'd skip replication given the uncertain status of the original process. They'd try to replicate as closely as possible, confirm they have a superconducting material, then they'd branch out from their established process. Starting from a variation means they don't know whether it doesn't work because of the variation or because it doesn't work at all.
Re:Breaking Superconductor News by stu255 on Thursday July 27, 2023 @10:28AM (#36894130)
I hear some very clever labs can do more than one thing at a time.
Re:Breaking Superconductor News by curiousObject on Thursday July 27, 2023 @11:45AM (#36895312)
That’s not unreasonable, but the high-risk, high-reward approach would be to let researchers elsewhere do basic verification, while you try to leap a step ahead of them by going directly to derivative variations.

Abandon the work if nobody can replicate LK-99 within a few weeks and you haven’t really lost out badly.

Re:Breaking Superconductor News by cryptonector on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @05:08PM (#36885055)
Boiling-water-temperature superconductors. Pinch me, it feels like a dream.