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Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by maxloh on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @08:42AM (#36876696)
Unfortunately Firefox doesn't have a good UI/UX after all.

The last time I checked, multiple profiles support is somehow half-baked.

Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by wsgeorge on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @09:08AM (#36877029)
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, but this is a big deal IMO. We're here because Chrome has been the better product for a long time. Firefox not doing things people want well enough will hurt its adoption, which will impact its capacity to influence the Web.

Add to Mozilla's perceived not-very-good management and you have a death spiral on your hands, and more power to Google and Apple to shape the Web towards their interests.

FWIW, first-class profiles support matters a lot: https://medium.com/sort-of-like-a-tech-diary/profiles-the-on...

Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by pndy on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @10:36AM (#36878426)
Mozilla in the past ignored the criticism users had regarding UI/UX changes and went with deploying this bulky mobile-oriented interface for desktops. And here we are.

This itself is one issue; there are also all sorts of adventures they decide to go for little to not at all related to the browser development, and which are conducted to convince people all around the world that they're a good humane corporation that cares. Igh.

Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by mozball on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @09:19AM (#36877180)
Multiple profiles is fully supported. It's just hidden behind a clunky UX.

Also check out firefox containers which is to profiles what docker is to virtual machines.

Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by luuurker on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @09:44AM (#36877581)
Containers are useful, but it's like having a few similar terminal windows open. Eventually you'll type something on the wrong window... at least I found myself searching for personal stuff on my work Google container.

With profiles I can have different bookmarks, extensions, and even a different theme so I'm aware I'm on my personal profile, not on a work profile. Since switching profiles on Firefox + macOS is a pain in the butt, I use 2 different Firefox channels (stable + dev).

Anyway, containers are nice, but they're not a replacement for profiles.

Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by wsgeorge on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @03:13PM (#36883312)
> Anyway, containers are nice, but they're not a replacement for profiles.

This, so much. Anytime I've brought up profiles on Firefox, I'm told about this alternative that isn't a replacement for the feature.

Safari is (finally) bringing this, so maybe the folks at FF will begin to see this as a feature worth investing in. First-class profiles support is one of the main reasons I stick to Chrome, despite trying to switch.

Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by SoftTalker on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @01:58PM (#36882032)
Yeah, AFAIK to setup profiles you have to run:

    firefox --ProfileManager
And then to use them you have to start firefox e.g. :

    firefox -P <profile-name>
Very few casual users (nor even most technical users) start Firefox from a command line, and setting up shortcuts for these is also a step that most users won't do.

The support for profiles is there, it's just hard to use in the context of a GUI desktop.

Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by justcool393 on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @02:21PM (#36882438)
can't you just go to about:profiles?
Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by SoftTalker on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @02:40PM (#36882765)
Wow. I never knew. Thanks!
Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by wsgeorge on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @03:10PM (#36883258)
> It's just hidden behind a clunky UX.

That's part of the "problem" with Firefox's support of profiles. It feels more like an afterthought and less like a primary use case the product wants to surface. To approximate the functionality Chrome has, I had to bookmark "about:profiles" and make it my home page.

Chrome also added this nifty feature that lets you open links as a Profile, making it easy to switch.

These may seem like small issues, but the end up mattering.

Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by realharo on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @09:46AM (#36877622)
Firefox is also missing a don't allow any website to play audio unless explicitly enabled setting (mute tabs by default, except on allowed sites), as far as I can tell.
Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by bartvk on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @10:17AM (#36878125)
I think it has?

Go to Settings, and search for Autoplay (or in the left navigation, select Privacy and Security and scroll to Permissions).

Click the Settings button next to Autoplay, and set the default to whatever you like (amongst them "Block Audio").

Re:Google is already pushing WEI (web DRM) into Chromium by realharo on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @11:08AM (#36878965)
That's not the same thing. Chrome's setting can force audio to be muted regardless of user interactions or manually started playback, until the website settings are changed to allow sound.