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Re:Warning of forthcoming collapse of Atlantic meridional ov... by godelski on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @10:05PM (#36872288)
Which the irony here is that I think a lot of the rough ride is due to people caring too much. Most of the fighting is due to non-experts having high confidence in their understanding of the highly complex phenomena fighting with similar people with just different misunderstandings. This fighting just adds additional noise to the system and results in it being even more difficult to formulate effective solutions.

It's kinda an odd characteristic that passion for a subject doesn't strongly correlate with the desire to become more knowledgeable in that subject. It's definitely there for all those that do become experts, but there's a large number of experts with high passion too. I suspect that it is partially due to our desire of wanting to know everything and believing that lack of knowledge is a blemish. To me this feels odd, it is like being upset you bought a puzzle that wasn't already assembled, a videogame that wasn't already beaten, or a book that wasn't already read.

Re:Warning of forthcoming collapse of Atlantic meridional ov... by jacquesm on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @10:14PM (#36872336)
One of my kids observed that knowing all the stuff he learns in school doesn't seem to make him any happier, but does wonders for seeing how fucked up everything is. It would be nice if I found a way to show him that knowing lots of stuff can help in positive ways as well but for now he has me cornered.
Re:Warning of forthcoming collapse of Atlantic meridional ov... by godelski on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @10:36PM (#36872476)
Sounds like a smart kid. I'm not sure if the world is fucked up or we just are misinterpreting it. If I can sympathize with fucked up characters in books and movies, maybe it just means I don't know enough about those people/things that I consider evil or fucked up. There's a lot of variables at play, many hidden, creating a fundamentally stochastic reality. A friend told me a saying once, and I don't think he realized how much it would impact my life.

> The harder I work, the luckier I get.

I definitely went through an existential crisis where I found that the world was dominated by noise (with complexity being just one form). But what I found meaningful from this simple saying is that if life is composed of stochastic events, I better be ready to seize upon the opportunities when and if they emerge.

Plus, I've always enjoyed learning. Not for power or any actual gain. But the same way one finds enjoyment in solving a puzzle or playing any game. Isn't that enough? I just see that the noise and complexity I can see just indicates what level of the game I'm on. Games wouldn't be fun if they didn't get more challenging as you progressed :)

I don't know if this helps. Maybe this is that random event to seize upon or maybe it is just more noise. But that's the world I guess, and there's a certain beauty to that.

Re:Warning of forthcoming collapse of Atlantic meridional ov... by jacquesm on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @12:06AM (#36872966)
Food for thought, thank you very much. We seem to have a lot in common when it comes to learning for learning's sake.