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Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by Balgair on Monday July 24, 2023 @01:35PM (#36851534)
> (why would he care so much about this, boredom?)

> due to extreme unreflected and unchecked ego

Unfortunately, I think it's worse than that. My belief is that it's manic phases caused by bipolar disorder. If you squint and chart these 'manic' decisions, it seems to be about every 4-5 months. In between he'll often (though not always) post some self-reflective and more 'down' things and be generally more quiet (remember the diet-coke and gun pics?). Then, like with many bipolar sufferers, he'll get 'manic' again and do these kinda things to his businesses and to those around him who care. His personal life is famously a mess.

I want to be clear, I'm not a shrink, I have no degrees in this, and I'm 'diagnosing' this very far removed from the guy. But I do have a few bipolar people in my life and, to me, the parallels are very striking.

I feel for him in that way. Despite all the money and fame, the disease that I suspect he suffers from (with, again, low evidence) is a very tough one to accept. Of the people in my own life that suffer from it, none have moved past a confirmed diagnosis and started the long road to recovery and acceptance.

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by 3cats-in-a-coat on Monday July 24, 2023 @02:02PM (#36851919)
I'm not sure when in the last 9 months since he bought Twitter you found Elon reflective and "down". It's been lunacy after lunacy every single week.

Does it seem like manic? Yes. But when this behavior is persistent, not sure bipolar is the diagnosis per se.

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by shagie on Monday July 24, 2023 @02:12PM (#36852076)
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/31/elon-musk-is-bipolar-has-ter...

> Sunday, on Twitter, Musk was also asked if he was bipolar, to which Musk replied, “yeah,” but then he explained further, saying his psychological highs and lows are associated with actual ups and downs in his life.

> “Maybe not medically tho,” says his tweet. “Dunno. Bad feelings correlate to bad events, so maybe real problem is getting carried away in what I sign up for.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/entertainment/elon-musk-tweeted-bip...

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by 3cats-in-a-coat on Monday July 24, 2023 @02:42PM (#36852509)
He's self-diagnosed Asperger's, self-diagnosed bipolar, many things.
Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by justo-rivera on Monday July 24, 2023 @02:12PM (#36852066)
In what sense is bipolar disorder worse than extreme unreflected and unchecked ego?
Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by soderfoo on Monday July 24, 2023 @02:33PM (#36852397)
Mixed episodes and the inevitable downward swing to depression.

Mixed episodes are no joke, I've experienced a couple and hope to never do so again.

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by zogrodea on Monday July 24, 2023 @04:07PM (#36853512)
I think (guessing) the two of you might possibly be using different definitions of “better”/“worse”.

We’re not morally responsible for the fact some of us may have mental disorders (some like OCD which I have won’t leave us entirely), so stealing which we would be morally responsible for is worse than having a mental disorder.

However, having a mental disorder would be worse than stealing in terms of its consequences (we just can’t get rid of it no matter how much we try).

(At least I think it makes sense to accept both of your statements that way since I think having a large ego is morally bad independently of any consequences.)

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by superdug on Monday July 24, 2023 @02:53PM (#36852686)
What I believe OP was getting at is that while he’s being an asshole he’s completely tormented by his own mind not allowing him empathy or understanding beyond his suffering. Since he, like so many with bipolar disorder (myself included) is that the cycle of suffering and abhorrent behavior will continue until he can accept that his brain will not let him out of torment long enough to see how his infliction is broadcast outward and who it really effects. Now combine that with the world’s biggest microphone being used by a man with enough means that it will be dumb luck for him to realize it as he has no consequences for his actions. It’s not impossible to make that realization on your own and it’s even harder to make it stick without medication to make your brain break out of a cycle that you have no more control over than anyone else, and it’s your own mind doing it to you.
Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by CaptainZapp on Monday July 24, 2023 @02:47PM (#36852587)
I don't think it's OK to remotely analyze a mental illness of another person.

I think that Mr. Musk is an undiluted asshole and one of the worst douchebags to ever grace our planet, which he has proven again and again.

But analyzing his mental condition is sure as shit not up to me or to anybody else.

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by sverhagen on Monday July 24, 2023 @02:55PM (#36852714)
He kind of opens that door by interactively self-analyzing in the public space. Also, while you make that point, you declare a lot of judgement on his personality; is that really any better then?
Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by CaptainZapp on Monday July 24, 2023 @03:04PM (#36852843)
I feel that it's my right to make a judgement call on his behavior.

After all, he proved again and again what a sad excuse of a human being he is.

But I don't think it's OK to judge his mental state as an outsider.

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by adroniser on Monday July 24, 2023 @03:37PM (#36853180)
Calling someone a sad excuse of a human being sure sounds like an assessment of their mental state lol.
Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by jacquesm on Monday July 24, 2023 @03:33PM (#36853149)
This is a forum. People will say stuff. You may or may not agree with the stuff they say. They'll do it anyway. Judging someone's mental state as an outsider is fine as long as you don't purport to do it from the perspective of telling them what to do next, that's pretending you're a doctor. But I've seen plenty of actual doctors do remote diagnosis of Musk's various mental issues (ditto: Trump, Putin) and I'm fine with it, I just take it with a grain of salt. If we take being a sad excuse of a human being as a reflection of someone's mental state then you are in fact engaging in the same, the only difference is whether or not you use terms with clinical relevance.
Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by singleshot_ on Monday July 24, 2023 @03:43PM (#36853249)
What’s the difference between an outsider and, e.g., his therapist? Consent? Proximity?

Curious; not trying to bust your balls.

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by dlkf on Monday July 24, 2023 @03:26PM (#36853061)
> But analyzing his mental condition is sure as shit not up to me or to anybody else.

Why not? Am I unallowed to suggest that Howard Hughes had OCD? That Kurt Gödel was paranoid?

Submitting a hypothesis about some’s mental condition is a reasonable thing to do, given that you have a substantial body of evidence in the form of behavioural reports.

I don’t find the above argument convincing, but only because it’s vague and lacks specific examples - not because it’s ”not okay.”

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by short_throw on Monday July 24, 2023 @03:30PM (#36853121)
I'm a bit perplexed that you see trashing a man's character with certainty as right and pondering if his actions could reflect a struggle with mental illness as wrong.

I don't like Musk, nor do I trust the things he says, but I usually err on the side of granting people some humanity.

Re:Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’ by WalterBright on Monday July 24, 2023 @03:51PM (#36853336)
> one of the worst douchebags to ever grace our planet

Cool your jets, man!

Musk has done plenty of good, for the country and the world. I can think of plenty, plenty others who have accomplished nothing but feel entitled to run other peoples' lives.