Re:Why don't we get our drinking water from the ocean by tak...
by richk449 on Sunday July 23, 2023 @10:00PM
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So salt combining with water takes energy, and separating it gives off energy. Yet combining happens spontaneously, and separation doesn’t. Because I don’t understand this, it seems like a paradox. What am I missing?
Re:Why don't we get our drinking water from the ocean by tak...
by lazide on Monday July 24, 2023 @12:47AM
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They’re talking about a tiny, tiny portion of the energy balance for one part of the salt in saltwater. The energy needs to actually purify it are far, far greater in practice.
Re:Why don't we get our drinking water from the ocean by tak...
by AnotherGoodName on Monday July 24, 2023 @01:24AM
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To move to each side of the energy states you need to overcome a hump between. Think electron tunneling. The separated side is the lower energy state. It's just that we don't know a good way to 'tunnel' to that state from the higher energy state in this particular case.
The separated state has an easy way to receive energy to overcome that hump. It just needs agitation. There should be a way to reverse it and gain energy but we haven't found a good way yet.
Adding salt is endothermic, it absorbs energy.
Most people have this mentally backwards since it's currently so hard to separate salt and water and they don't really notice the water getting cold when they stir in salt. But... there's no reason a process couldn't separate them and give off energy from a thermodynamics point of view.