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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by b59831 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @02:18PM (#36804476)
Look at the comments on this site whenever speech is brought up.

"I'm all for free speech BUT that person said lets go brandon, that's hate spreech... "

Privacy is given away for political flag waving.

Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by eli on Thursday July 20, 2023 @02:25PM (#36804572)
Cmon who is saying that?

Plenty of people believe in limits to free speech but very very few would draw the line there.

Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by nonethewiser on Thursday July 20, 2023 @02:25PM (#36804571)
If the definition of free speech doesnt feel over inclusive then its not free speech.
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by wilg on Thursday July 20, 2023 @02:27PM (#36804594)
Wait, do you think there are people who think “Let’s Go Brandon” is anything but a hilarious conservative self-own?
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by nonethewiser on Thursday July 20, 2023 @02:29PM (#36804618)
Yeah. Literally everyone who says it unironically. So the original usage.
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by wilg on Thursday July 20, 2023 @03:21PM (#36805418)
I thought of this immediately but was too lazy to edit so this is what I deserve
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by crackercrews on Thursday July 20, 2023 @02:30PM (#36804639)
How is this a self-own?
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by jen20 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @02:54PM (#36805061)
Because it makes people look like pathetic muppets. If you mean "Fuck Joe Biden", say "Fuck Joe Biden", don't clutch your damn pearls about it.
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by crackercrews on Thursday July 20, 2023 @03:15PM (#36805350)
Interesting take. I understood conservatives to use it because it is also taking a shot at the so-called MSM, who dubiously created the phrase. I never knew people though conservatives were being muppets by using it.
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by _djo_ on Thursday July 20, 2023 @03:28PM (#36805523)
The 'MSM' (what a dated phrase) didn't create it, it was just a single reporter at a NASCAR race who either misheard it or bowdlerised it for the live TV audience.
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by jonhohle on Thursday July 20, 2023 @04:33PM (#36806346)
When the majority uses vulgarities, how does not using vulgarity make one a muppet? I’d also consider the Muppets rather avant-garde for their time, so maybe you mean it as a complement as in Gonzo, Fozzy, or Beaker (or any other pathetic Muppet).
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by wilg on Friday July 21, 2023 @12:06AM (#36809872)
nice try
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by jen20 on Friday July 21, 2023 @09:16AM (#36813388)
If you think the _words_ are the vulgar part of modern right wing ideology, I don't even know what to tell you.

That said, I am perhaps guilty of the same offence there - per the BBC America article "10 British Insults Americans Won't Understand" [1], a muppet is "someone who’s stupid, gullible and incapable of independent thought" - unfortunately the pearl clutching tends to extend to the typical four letter word I would use for such people.

[1]: https://www.bbcamerica.com/blogs/10-british-insults-american...

Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by mensetmanusman on Thursday July 20, 2023 @04:51PM (#36806583)
They did say that, but the media translated it to ‘let’s go Brandon’ as a self own, so it’s many levels deep :)
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by Izkata on Thursday July 20, 2023 @06:53PM (#36807868)
Yep, it immediately turned into a meme. Memes aren't always logical, and probably mostly aren't logical.
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by gloryjulio on Thursday July 20, 2023 @04:20PM (#36806163)
It's just hilarious from the outsiders' view. It's just a bunch ppl want to insult but don't want to say the exact words.
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by nvm0n1 on Friday July 21, 2023 @04:36AM (#36811466)
So many levels of meta-irony in this thread. You're laughing at a non-existent strawman you've been fed by the media.

The people saying Let's Go Brandon are perfectly happy to say Fuck Joe Biden. That's how the whole thing started. A large crowd at a televised NASCAR race started chanting it in unison whilst the winning driver called Brandon was being interviewed. The words they were saying were perfectly audible, but the interviewer tried to claim the crowd were not saying "Fuck Joe Biden" but rather enthusiastically chanting "Let's Go Brandon".

https://youtu.be/u9UjgITXUJ4?t=60

This immediately became a meme because it's such a perfect shorthand for the duplicity and accountability-free manipulation of the US media.

That's why it became a conservative meme in the following months. But of course because the media don't tell anyone where it came from or why, the people who get their information from it now believe that it's a "hilarious self-own" and people saying it "want to insult but don't want to say the exact words"!

Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by gloryjulio on Friday July 21, 2023 @06:01AM (#36812011)
Keep living in your small political world, you guys are just a joke. You know there are ppl don't care about politicians;)
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by soupbowl on Friday July 21, 2023 @05:28PM (#36820054)
Nvm0n1 gave a good explanations of the meme nature of "let's go Brandon". Not sure why you are being rude. You clearly live in a small political world and don't understand the meta.
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by xenospn on Thursday July 20, 2023 @03:34PM (#36805599)
Can you point to a comment that said that, or are you simply projecting?