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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by justapassenger on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:48PM (#36803235)
You must love Meta then, who refused to compromise to enter China (and boy, they tried). While Apple happily shares data with Chinese government to make billions.
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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by scarface_74 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:24PM (#36803720)
You mean how Facebook wouldn’t “compromise” when it was outright banned?
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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by lawn on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:30PM (#36803809)
If they would have compromised they wouldn't have been banned.

So, yes?

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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by scarface_74 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:40PM (#36803948)
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/042915/why-f...

China never asked them to compromise. They were banned in 2009.

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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by lawn on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:59PM (#36804241)
And you know for a fact that they never communicated with Facebook and just banned them out of the blue?

Or is this just speculation (fitting considering the source)?

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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by scarface_74 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @02:02PM (#36804275)
Seeing that every non Chinese social media company was banned and that Zuckerberg later tried to get back into China

> In 2018, Facebook attempted to set up a $30 million subsidiary in Hangzhou to incubate startups and give advice to local businesses. Permission to run the startup was quickly withdrawn

Do you really think that Facebook is out of China for any moral reason?

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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by justapassenger on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:48PM (#36804081)
Zuckerberg was courting China hard around 2015-ish, to allow them to operate. He learnt mandarin, spoke at Tsinghua University in Beijing, met Xi, etc.

Of course, we don’t know real reasons why they didn’t open there, but end result is that Apple shares data with China and Meta doesn’t.

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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by ehsankia on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:23PM (#36803707)
Similarly, Bing is happy to run in China while Google pulled out of there.
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