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Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by Keats on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:18AM (#36800821)
Unless it's China in which case they will not care about it!
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by FirmwareBurner on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:23AM (#36800896)
If they did it for China, it will be the same of UK. The cat's out of the bag.

They will probably comply with some backdoor in partnership with Five-Eyes NSA & GCHQ. This is just PR posturing to build consumer trust.

Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by BiteCode_dev on Thursday July 20, 2023 @10:54AM (#36801392)
Or America, as we have seen with PRISM.

Basically, it's as usual a financial calculation of what PR can brings vs what you can lose in the market.

And fanboys believe it's because they are the good guys.

Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by m3kw9 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @11:03AM (#36801546)
Yep in that case let’s just close down the company because every country will want some privacy breaking rules imposed on you
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by judge2020 on Thursday July 20, 2023 @11:22AM (#36801853)
China had all the bargaining power, in that non-compliance meant no more iPhones, and Apple going out of business. Apple wasn't ready to move production entirely to India or another country.
Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by justapassenger on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:53PM (#36803312)
Google, Meta (Oculus) are banned in China and still produce their HW there.

It was about getting a slice of hugely lucrative pie of customer market.

Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by Gorbzel on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:16PM (#36802747)
It's very strange because like OP, huge fanboy. Early on it felt wrong to also burden Cupertino with being a cultural leader, but somewhere around $1.0T+ market cap, that has evolved.

Vaguely remember a charity used to have a thing where they'd auction off a dinner with Steve, then later Tim. Given time with a leader who has literally revolutionized supply chain in CN and a CEO who made Apple his own following the most notable CEO ever, going after various gotcha points would feel like a wasted opportunity. But think I'd have to ask why a company designed in California of the 1960s and 1970s doesn't have line in the sand policies when dealing with a genocidal government and perpetual backdoors in software and politics, but will take a move like this. Would hope for something more than a canned answer.

Re:Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rathe... by catboybotnet on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:49PM (#36803253)
Capital. Once you grow to a certain point, politics and ideas are only good for marketing. Companies will happily work with banana republics and dictators if it outweighs the losses from paying your PR team a little more for a few months. Companies are not your friend, as in the end they only care about your money.