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Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by ilyt on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @05:05PM (#36793373)
Well, one day kid will want to know where you work and what you do and you can't lie forever. Especially if somehow they learn early or other kids will.

But yeah there is plenty of worse things that can happen.

Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by candiodari on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @05:36PM (#36793795)
Why is it that people have a purely punitive approach to this? Because they get to feel puritan with a semi-reasonable argument: sex work damages others!

Except ... what determines if this is better or worse is the alternative. If you're really after the welfare of the child, what determines your position is the alternative ... What damages the child more? Taking the child away, in India, leads to this:

https://borgenproject.org/orphans-in-india/

So no, a parent who's a sex worker is a LOT better. And that should be the basis for your moral position. It's all well and good to define an ideal and then blame people for not attaining perfection ... but of course we'd all be in jail if that's how we actually work.

You want to change sex work? Offer these people some better options. And if you can't do that, for whatever reason, throwing the child into child services IS NOT a good second option.

And I would argue this applies to pretty much every country in the world, including the US. The situation of orphans may not be quite as bad as in India, it's certainly not better than living with (very) suboptimal parents.

And, frankly, that should be the only concern.

Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by ilyt on Thursday July 20, 2023 @11:58AM (#36802436)
I didn't say it damages anything; I said it will be pretty hard talk to have and hard to manage situation, especially if it somehow leaks to the other kids, kids are cruel. And things that are hard can go bad easily.

"But the other job earning less money would be worse for kid!" is extremely one-dimensional view on that

And I'm not sure how your weird rant about child services is even related to that

Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by candiodari on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:35PM (#36803031)
> And I'm not sure how your weird rant about child services is even related to that

That's the only alternative you/society offers for these children. So that's what you should compare to. I get that you don't want to do that, because it totally demolishes your argument, but it still is the only alternative.

Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by blamarvt on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @05:46PM (#36793924)
What’s wrong with the truth?
Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by ilyt on Thursday July 20, 2023 @11:59AM (#36802470)
"Timmy what you mommy does?"

"My mommy sucks dicks for money"

That's what

Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by postmortembees on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:29PM (#36802941)
You can abstract it. My mommy is a dancer, or my mommy is an actor and she does shows for one grownup at a time.

It's really not difficult to find a true statement that is also not the whole truth. It's not like my kid understands what I do for a living beyond the company name I work for. Abstraction is fine and normal.

Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by ilyt on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:45PM (#36803183)
Well, he asked for truth, not lying. What you're doing is lying. Which can be fine but let's not invent new names for lying, it already has enough of them.
Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by postmortembees on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:03PM (#36803443)
It's not lying.

Am I lying to my kid when I say I "work with computers"? No, it's an abstraction. My 8 year old doesn't need to understand what a datacenter is, but just because I elide details doesn't mean I'm lying to them.

Re:India’s sex workers turn to WhatsApp, Instagram to find c... by postmortembees on Thursday July 20, 2023 @12:27PM (#36802898)
Someday I had to tell my kid that people have two mommies and some people have two daddies, and you know what? It was fine. You can abstract it for a kid until they are old enough to understand.