Llama 2 – Meta AI

Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by lacker on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:42PM (#36775384)

I think Google or Microsoft probably would want to use LLaMa for various purposes like benchmarking and improving their own products. Check out this other condition from the license:

v. You will not use the Llama Materials or any output or results of the Llama Materials to improve any other large language model (excluding Llama 2 or derivative works thereof).

https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/blob/main/LICENSE

Just like Google scrapes the internet to improve their models, it might make sense to ingest outputs from other models to improve their models. This licensing prevents them from doing that. Using Llama to improve other LLMs is specifically forbidden, but Google will also be forbidden from using Llama to improve any other AI products they might be building.

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Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by galaxyLogic on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:54PM (#36775566)

I can see their business logic but isn't it a bit like do not allow people (or bots) talk to each other, they might all get smarter.

I understand trade-secrets are not free-speech but if the goal is to build better AI to serve the humanity the different bots should learn from each other. They should also criticize each other to find flaws in their thinking and biases.

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Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by peddling-brink on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:43PM (#36776456)

> if the goal is to build better AI to serve the humanity

It’s not.

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Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by DeathArrow on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @02:56PM (#36777544)

>but if the goal is to build better AI to serve the humanity

Whose goal is that?

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Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by galaxyLogic on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:57AM (#36782268)

Google's. Do no evil they say

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Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by CamperBob2 on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @10:02AM (#36786503)

"Don't be evil" was deprecated from Google's charter around the same time that Apple removed "Computer" from their name.

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Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by visarga on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @04:08PM (#36778407)

There are many datasets created by scraping chatGPT and they seem to work out pretty well. In other words, LLM skills are leaky.

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Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by toomanydoubts on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @06:40PM (#36780004)

The goal is to build better AI to make more money.

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Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by visarga on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @04:07PM (#36778386)

That's an ugly position on Meta's part. But Llama models are small, they are not going to be preferred to generate synthetic data, GPT-4 is the darling of synth datasets.

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Re:Llama 2 – Meta AI by anothernewdude on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @11:40PM (#36781862)

A pointless provision given that the License doesn't cover the output of the model, so I can redistribute outputs to someone else, and then they (since they aren't beholden to the license) can now do as they like.

And they want to be very careful about labeling outputs as derivative works, because the moment they do that then they have no defense against the model being a derivative work of every single input.

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