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Re:“Blade Runners” destroying Ulez surveillance cameras in t... by Dig1t on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:35PM (#36765617)
Enforcing such a policy via mass surveillance is a bit Orwellian though isn't it?
Re:“Blade Runners” destroying Ulez surveillance cameras in t... by hhh on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:59PM (#36765876)
No value judgement here, but how else would you enforce it?
Re:“Blade Runners” destroying Ulez surveillance cameras in t... by mock-possum on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @02:12AM (#36768512)
More cops! More traffic stops and checkpoints! More inspections and fees!

No wait fuck nobody likes any of that.

Okay what about buyback programs. What about trade ins. What about tax breaks and government subsidies for buying newer vehicles with less hem fuel emissions? What if instead of paying to enforce a law, you paid to change the conditions that lead to the problems that the law was created to address in the first place?

Re:“Blade Runners” destroying Ulez surveillance cameras in t... by hugh-avherald on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @02:29AM (#36768633)
Every tax break is a tax increase for someone else. Buying polluting vehicles would encourage people to buy harmful things because they would expect the government would eventually pay them off (or equivalently would discourage people from buying less polluting vehicles early, lest they miss out on a bailout).
Re:“Blade Runners” destroying Ulez surveillance cameras in t... by wcoenen on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @03:49AM (#36769163)
> Okay what about buyback programs

Already in place.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/scr...

Re:“Blade Runners” destroying Ulez surveillance cameras in t... by c4ptnjack on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:36PM (#36767116)
Is that more Orwellian than say anti-theft camera systems or red light cameras at stoplights?
Re:“Blade Runners” destroying Ulez surveillance cameras in t... by Dig1t on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @01:36AM (#36768242)
It depends on who controls the cameras, but yes generally every added means of surveillance by a centralized power takes us closer to an Orwellian society.

anti-theft cameras less so, because they are controlled by individual people, but as seen with Ring doorbells, the government can still access them, so it's pretty creepy.

Re:“Blade Runners” destroying Ulez surveillance cameras in t... by mock-possum on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @02:05AM (#36768451)
Seems about on par to me