A Third of North America’s Birds Have Vanished

Re:A Third of North America’s Birds Have Vanished by jonathankoren on Saturday July 15, 2023 @10:56PM (#36743077)

No we can solve these problems. We know the solutions. It's government regulation, complete with punative fines and imprisonment on not just corporations, but the executives of the corporations. We choose not to solve them, because it will make a multibillionare a mere single billionares and we believe this is bad, because the billionares tell us it's bad.

In the United States has been an intentional, systemic, and documented propaganda campaign (their term even!) from the 1900s, with an even larger emphasis since the 1930s, to today by the National Association of Manufacturers -- the funders of hayek and Friedman -- to delegitimize any attempt to put any regulation as not only antibuisness, but antifreedom, and it's bullshit. It's to trick people into thinking they aren't just powerless, but being powerless is actually good.

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Re:A Third of North America’s Birds Have Vanished by ImaCake on Sunday July 16, 2023 @12:54AM (#36743797)

Not sure why you are being downvoted. There is plenty of precedent for society level change leading to improvement. National parks, air quality, public health, etc.

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Re:A Third of North America’s Birds Have Vanished by kelseyfrog on Sunday July 16, 2023 @01:14AM (#36743901)

At the risk of sounding reductive, the problem in your example is getting folks to choose differently. This applies at both the meta and mesa levels or in other words, within the present system and the choice of which system. That's what I mean when I talk about social technologies. We lack the social mechanisms, or in other words, they must be developed to overcome it.

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