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Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by collsni on Friday July 14, 2023 @11:25PM (#36733009)
I liked the CA MITM call out.. we just trust these organizations to not deploy wildcard malicious certificates.

Kinda messed up devices come preloaded with unchangeable trusted CAs

Guy knows his stuff, also works for dod.

Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by yjftsjthsd-h on Saturday July 15, 2023 @12:29AM (#36733496)
> we just trust these organizations to not deploy wildcard malicious certificates.

Don't we have transparency logs to check that now?

Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by judge2020 on Saturday July 15, 2023 @12:40AM (#36733590)
Yes, Chrome and Safari will not load a site if the cert is not in CT. https://no-sct.badssl.com/
Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by sedatk on Saturday July 15, 2023 @02:17AM (#36734093)
also Edge. It's an open issue on Firefox: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1281469
Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by ignoramous on Saturday July 15, 2023 @02:36AM (#36734182)
Wow. Firefox should really prioritize this if all major browsers are doing it already.
Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by sedatk on Saturday July 15, 2023 @02:48AM (#36734239)
There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly which decade old bug should be fixed in Firefox, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by some obscure web service by Mozilla Foundation. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

(in memory of Douglas Adams)

Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by RunSet on Saturday July 15, 2023 @03:59PM (#36740422)
Let's test that theory:

It's this one. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505521

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Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by andreasha on Saturday July 15, 2023 @03:27AM (#36734447)
But not Brave apparently
Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by trishmapow2 on Saturday July 15, 2023 @09:20AM (#36736474)
Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by AndyMcConachie on Saturday July 15, 2023 @04:18AM (#36734712)
They will not load the site if the certificate does not have embedded SCTs. That's different.

They don't actually go check and compare the embedded SCT with what is in the logs. It would be incredibly slow to load the site if they did that.

Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by Maxious on Saturday July 15, 2023 @08:48AM (#36736142)
This is going to blow your mind but they do, it's called the Inclusion Checking phase https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FP5J5Sfsg0OR9P4YT0q1dM02...
Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by AndyMcConachie on Saturday July 15, 2023 @04:09AM (#36734653)
So now we trust them to log it. What's the difference?
Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by ZiiS on Saturday July 15, 2023 @04:22AM (#36734745)
If someone else logs a certificate for one of my domains I am notified and can have it revoked.
Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by vladvasiliu on Saturday July 15, 2023 @07:27AM (#36735582)
How are you following this in practice, especially if every service has its own certificate that it rotates every two months via letsencrypt or similar?

It's not clear to me how you know who asked for the certificate in the log. Do you somehow compile the private keys of all entities that are allowed to request certificates and compare that to the CTL?

Re:Tor is not just for anonymity by ZiiS on Saturday July 15, 2023 @09:50AM (#36736743)
I only have about a two dozen certs so having a notification a week is managable not had to think how to scale it.