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Re:Documents show scientist calling lab leak likely after pa... by arghandugh on Friday July 14, 2023 @02:35AM (#36720212)
There is still no evidence whatsoever for the lab leak conspiracy theory (while the case for natural sourcing is obvious and approaching overwhelming) and half of the English speaking world now believes it is the most likely explanation because of this kind of drivel. Are we all truly so bored of reality?

It’s one of the truly irritating mass delusions of the era and of course it’s on here, tracked in through Glenn Greenwald’s private pigsty.

Re:Documents show scientist calling lab leak likely after pa... by supriyo-biswas on Friday July 14, 2023 @03:29AM (#36720565)
Re:Documents show scientist calling lab leak likely after pa... by frankreyes on Friday July 14, 2023 @04:26AM (#36720970)
FBI Director Christopher Wray has said that the bureau believes Covid-19 most likely originated in a Chinese government-controlled lab.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64806903

US Energy Department assesses Covid-19 likely resulted from lab leak, furthering US intel divide over virus origin

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/26/politics/covid-lab-leak-w...

But hey, keep those conspiracy theories running

Re:Documents show scientist calling lab leak likely after pa... by arghandugh on Saturday July 15, 2023 @03:52AM (#36734570)
Trumper, tortured opinion piece, irrelevant sidebar from someone who can’t meaningfully comment on Chinese politics, and a NY POST blurb. Shattering work. Great. You’ve blown this whole thing wide open.
Re:Documents show scientist calling lab leak likely after pa... by frankreyes on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:29AM (#36756720)
FBI and DoE Trumper? Sure, right

You didn't provide any single supporting evidence. Go back to your conspiracy theories ;)

Re:Documents show scientist calling lab leak likely after pa... by oliv5900 on Friday July 14, 2023 @04:45AM (#36721134)
There is still no evidence whatsoever for the natural origins conspiracy theory (while the case for lab leaks is obvious and approaching overwhelming) and half of the English speaking world now believes it is the most likely explanation because of this kind of drivel. Are we all truly so bored of reality?

It’s one of the truly irritating mass delusions of the era and of course it’s on here, tracked in through mainstream news’ private pigsty.

What has been asserted without evidence, can just as well be dismissed without evidence.

Re:Documents show scientist calling lab leak likely after pa... by notTooFarGone on Friday July 14, 2023 @05:43AM (#36721672)
in dubio pro reo is still fundamental in our society and we should still hold other countries to the same standard (even if it's hard with bad faith actors)
Re:Documents show scientist calling lab leak likely after pa... by sharts on Friday July 14, 2023 @06:00AM (#36721776)
It is too political an issue for any definitive evidence to surface any time soon. Why would the most likely explanation be something worthy of dismissal?

We make lots of decisions in life based on likely explanation.

Re:Documents show scientist calling lab leak likely after pa... by benreesman on Friday July 14, 2023 @05:41AM (#36721647)
That’s a pretty stiff assertion in a thread on HN where there’s any debate: there are like a zillion PhDs in everything on here so when I see a conversation I just assume it’s not open and shut.

Maybe you’re one of them, arguments to authority are imperfect but we all use them, so now would be the time to break out the PhD in virology.

As a kind of side note, “conspiracy theory”, while once a somewhat useful term, at this point has joined “fake news”, “misinformation”, “psyop”, “alt-right”, “deep state” and all the other stuff that is just basically a partisan gang affiliation flex.

And it’s a shame, because some of these words meant something at one time and they don’t anymore.

But I’m pretty sure we’ll make up new ones.