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Re:LulzSec brought down by own leader by epoxyhockey on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @12:13PM (#3671870)
Grouping to trade 0-days is totally different than grouping to DDOS a website. I'm pretty sure the former won't end you up in jail, either.

But, I think the OP is right. The only successful (for lack of a better word) black hat is going to be a loner.

Re:LulzSec brought down by own leader by mindslight on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @12:57PM (#3672054)
The most successful ones work for the feds while squirreling away the proceeds. The feds don't mind cultivating crime if it's increasing their numbers.
Re:LulzSec brought down by own leader by rdl on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @12:58PM (#3672057)
Actually, criminal copyright infringement is a $250k fine, 5 year felony, in the US. Pretty amazing. You are vastly more likely to be prosecuted criminally if you're part of a group, and especially if you focus on 0-days. Even more likely if you sell things, charge for advertising on your site, etc.

The DrinkOrDie people got a lot of 3-5 year sentences. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Buccaneer

Re:LulzSec brought down by own leader by 286c8cb04bda on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @01:43PM (#3672236)
Parent posts are probably talking about 0-day exploits rather than 0-day warez.
Re:LulzSec brought down by own leader by rdl on Tuesday March 06, 2012 @03:03PM (#3672587)
Doh, of course.

DMCA still makes some 0-day exploit research not totally safe, either. https://www.eff.org/wp/unintended-consequences-under-dmca I don't know if anyone has been successfully convicted, but a lot of prosecutions have come up, and that's enough to deter many people.