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Re:FDA Approves First Nonprescription Daily Oral Contraceptive by maerF0x0 on Thursday July 13, 2023 @12:20PM (#36711716)
> You're right that women ought to be the ones in charge of dealing with this sort of thing,

That's pretty contrary to the typical diversity rationale that suggests out group people have valuable inputs. I think it makes a lot of sense to have society as a whole making decisions about how society as a whole operates. It's not just an individual's choice if they take a drug which may or may not end up being like thalidomide. At the very least it affects fathers, and those born with the side effects.

Of course women should have a voice in this area, but also should many other groups :)

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Re:FDA Approves First Nonprescription Daily Oral Contraceptive by mathisfun123 on Thursday July 13, 2023 @12:24PM (#36711771)
everything in this reply espouses ideas and positions that are literal antitheses of a liberal society.
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Re:FDA Approves First Nonprescription Daily Oral Contraceptive by mcpackieh on Thursday July 13, 2023 @02:12PM (#36713632)
In liberal democracies, people have a right to get to have their say (on a soap box and at the ballot box) in matters that don't rationally concern them.
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Re:FDA Approves First Nonprescription Daily Oral Contraceptive by mathisfun123 on Thursday July 13, 2023 @03:07PM (#36714460)
have a say but not dictate. so my point isn't that the response says things but that it advocates for policy/governance.
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Re:FDA Approves First Nonprescription Daily Oral Contraceptive by mcpackieh on Thursday July 13, 2023 @03:32PM (#36714806)
In a liberal democracy, a common citizen 'dictating' simply means saying something with a jackass commanding tone. Such advocacy for policy/governance is a protected right in liberal democracies.

It is my right to say: "I command you to dye yourself blue and dance for my amusement." And it's your right to tell me to fuck off.

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Re:FDA Approves First Nonprescription Daily Oral Contraceptive by mathisfun123 on Thursday July 13, 2023 @04:21PM (#36715420)
read my words carefully: i didn't say anything about the words themselves, nor the act of speaking those words, i said the ideas and positions are antithetical.
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Re:FDA Approves First Nonprescription Daily Oral Contraceptive by mcpackieh on Friday July 14, 2023 @01:32PM (#36727168)
The idea to which you responded was the assertion that people have a right to vote in matters that don't concern them. This is the central premise of liberal democracy.
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