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Re:Why it’s necessary to shoot yourself in the foot by q87b on Thursday July 13, 2023 @06:18AM (#36707035)
> You should use javac from the command line before using an IDE

That is how my university professor made whole semesters hate programming.

An IDE makes the entry into programming much easier and fun.

Re:Why it’s necessary to shoot yourself in the foot by userforcomment on Thursday July 13, 2023 @06:42AM (#36707210)
Oh, wait. That's why I hate Java? We used Netbeans in university...
Re:Why it’s necessary to shoot yourself in the foot by chii on Thursday July 13, 2023 @06:59AM (#36707336)
> An IDE makes the entry into programming much easier and fun.

then they shouldn't have picked java as an intro language.

Re:Why it’s necessary to shoot yourself in the foot by moffkalast on Thursday July 13, 2023 @08:10AM (#36707942)
"University and high school don't pick Java as the intro language challenge (impossible)"
Re:Why it’s necessary to shoot yourself in the foot by xen0 on Thursday July 13, 2023 @07:10AM (#36707435)
I think that should be caveated with 'you should try it _once_'.

It is more than possible, but for anything non-trivial, it just sucks.

Re:Why it’s necessary to shoot yourself in the foot by DontchaKnowit on Thursday July 13, 2023 @09:28PM (#36718345)
Using IDEs for java or for python invariably sucks, in my experience. Id pick command line over and IDE for anything but debugging any day. Because on the command line it is very clear what you are actually doing- in an IDE everything is filtered through the invented language of the IDE.