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Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by causality0 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @05:50PM (#36702182)
It makes me wonder how long it will be until open-source locally-run AI chatbots reach the GPT-4 level. Five years? Ten?
Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by swyx on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @05:56PM (#36702225)
its more a question of hardware progress than software probably. theres a minimum level for these behaviors to emerge
Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by lettergram on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @06:46PM (#36702696)
It depends on the tasks, I’d argue some of the open source alternatives are at the gpt-4 level already, particularly for code generation.

That said, I suspect summarization, translation, etc will take time. I’d suspect under 1 year.

Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by worldsayshi on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @06:52PM (#36702743)
>I’d argue some of the open source alternatives are at the gpt-4 level already, particularly for code generation.

Like which one?

Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by brucethemoose2 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @07:32PM (#36703121)
Large context Chronos 33b (and some mixes) for roleplaying type chat.

And there are some very new 65b finetunes I have not tried.

Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by crooked-v on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @07:31PM (#36703113)
The real limiter is having enough GPU RAM to train and run a usefully large model. Everything else is just fiddly details.
Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by brucethemoose2 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @07:43PM (#36703223)
Not anymore. Llama.cpp and kobold.cpp run well with low vram and non Nvidia GPUs.

Huggingface is full of finetunes now, and I believe a 33b model can be finetuned on a single 3090.

Llama.cpp is developing some kind of training, but I have no idea what the requirements will be.

Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by causality0 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @10:15PM (#36704284)
To me, GPT's real "secret sauce" is how it primes the model for interactive prompting instead of just text completion.
Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by ynniv on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @10:42PM (#36704439)
There are "chat" and "instruct" variants of most models now.
Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by vorpalhex on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @08:51PM (#36703721)
The open source bot I played with last week (Wizard Vicuna uncensored) was 85% of gpt 3.5 on a VERY hard use case (fiction stories).

Maybe a year before we are the level of stablediffusion?

Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by ramesh31 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @10:31PM (#36704371)
> It makes me wonder how long it will be until open-source locally-run AI chatbots reach the GPT-4 level. Five years? Ten?

A lot shorter than you'd think: https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/open_llm_leaderb...

Latest falcon-40b-instruct is scoring higher than GPT-3 on HellaSwag benchmark already, and not far behind GPT-4: https://paperswithcode.com/sota/sentence-completion-on-hella...

Big question is what counts as "locally run". You still need about $5k worth of GPU hardware to run it.

Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by eob on Thursday July 13, 2023 @12:55AM (#36705154)
When it happens, I think it’ll happen on our phones first.
Re:Show HN: AI companions stack – create and host your own A... by koheripbal on Thursday July 13, 2023 @03:46AM (#36706160)
Given the fundamental hardware matrix operations, that seems unlikely, unless it's something very scaled down.