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Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by bayindirh on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @04:36AM (#36691865)
What's the problem with pigeons? Honestly asking.
Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by bell-cot on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @05:31AM (#36692182)
Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by urxvtcd on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @07:56AM (#36693254)
Interesting article! Didn't know that the sentiment is relatively recent.

I always die a little hearing the flying rat thing. I get that they can be really annoying, waking you up, trying to lay eggs everywhere. But—having helped to care for many injured, sick, and unwell animals, pigeons _and_ fancy rats among them—I can't help but to feel sorry for how they are treated.

Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by 5040 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @10:46AM (#36695344)
If you like listening to podcasts, I'd recommend the following episode on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TlXi3_Fyyg

‘If it became necessary immediately to discard every line and method of communications used on the front, except one, and it were left to me to select that one method, I should unhesitatingly choose the pigeons’, wrote Major General Fowler, Chief of Signals and Communications of the British Army, after the First World War.

On today's podcast Tom and Dominic are joined by Gordon Corera, the BBC's Security Correspondent and author of 'Operation Columba: The Secret Pigeon Service', to discuss the often under-appreciated role of pigeons throughout the course of history.

Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by liotier on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @05:33AM (#36692196)
In dense urban environments, masses of corrosive pigeon shit everywhere, with feathers sticking to it. Unsanitary.

In my French Parisian city of Courbevoie, pigeon houses where eggs are shaken to sterilize them, and re-introducing magpies solved the problem - the now sparser population is fine. Magpies and crows devastate pigeon nests.

Also, the expansion of greenery led to shifting the pigeon population from mostly columba livia, which nests on rocks (and therefore on buildings) to mostly columba palumbus - which nests in vegetation and thus doesn't make a habit of shitting on buildings.

Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by jyounker on Monday July 17, 2023 @07:53AM (#36757019)
Pigeons aren't a problem. Killing off pigeon predators is a problem.
Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by liotier on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @06:34PM (#36779948)
Notre Dame's falcons sure are well nourished !
Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by agilob on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @06:56AM (#36692725)
WOOHOOOO WOOOHOOO WOOOHHHOOO at 4am for 4 months every day

My household had to change our sleeping schedule because of these stupid rats. In Europe they are both protected and invasive at the same time.

Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by pvaldes on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @10:04AM (#36694716)
Sadly the common European dove is being more and more scarce, following the same path than the migratory pigeon. The Eurasian collared dove or Turkish dove is invasive, but spreading naturally. They don't overlap.

As they suffer predation by magpies, the more spikes that humans put in the nest, the more attractive became to nest on it, it seems.

Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by WesolyKubeczek on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @02:30PM (#36699490)
I haven't seen a European turtle dove in Poland in my life. Never once.
Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by pvaldes on Thursday July 13, 2023 @05:01AM (#36706568)
Neither me. Is a shy Mediterranean species, usually rare in the North but in decline also in the South. Heavily hunted while in migration.
Re:Rebellious birds make nests out of anti-bird pins by hhlevnjak3 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @10:28AM (#36695057)
Haha, had the same problem. Don't even mind the doves, would gladly build them a place to live myself. But the early morning wake up alarm they create is too much.