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Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by SV_BubbleTime on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:00PM (#36682902)
Ehm, allow me to remind everyone what I heard about Twitter censorship for years.. If Sony doesn’t like it, they can make their own Call of Duty.

All this crying about COD from Sony who is proud of how they purchase exclusivity is nonsense.

There are whole areas of games or features or characters beyond skins that Sony purchased exclusivity to. They would have bought Activision if they could afford it.

Which is 1/2 my annoyance at these veneer thick arguments in re-use constantly until the picosecond they are no longer convenient, meaning thier repeaters didn’t actually believe in the point at all.

And the other 1/2 is quite serious. If there is a market for something, it has a chance of existing. Maybe Call of Duty needs actual competition? And I don’t mean Battlefield that DICE seems intent on running into the ground.

I don’t care if MS buys Activision or not. I’m just sick of the intellectually dishonest arguments and crying about most topics.

Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by neilv on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:14PM (#36683108)
> Maybe Call of Duty needs actual competition?

I'd try a modern evolution of SOCOM 4 or Killzone 3 on PS4/PS5.

(Microsoft can keep their Cod B.O.)

Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by Retric on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:04PM (#36682973)
It’s not about Sony, but customers that own a PS and not an XBox. Microsoft loves to buy studios and restrict access, just look a Halo it was introduced as a Mac game by the studio, Microsoft bought them specifically for XBox and fuck anyone that owned a Mac.
Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by pathartl on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:13PM (#36683105)
Please, Apple has been shooting themselves in the foot with gaming for decades. Halo: CE was also released for the Mac, so I'm not sure what the complaint is here.
Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by frumper on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:29PM (#36683362)
If you were a Mac gamer it seems fair to complain about a game going from being made for Mac to a port 2 years after it was released.
Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by Retric on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:52PM (#36683707)
What are you blaming Apple for Microsoft’s direct customer harm here?

A more than 2 year delay for the first game and never getting the rest of the series is a major downside for existing customers. That’s exactly the kind of monopolist behavior you are supposed to block mergers for. Waiting 2 years cost Microsoft a little revenue directly, but pushed XBox sales which was far more valuable.

Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by Sohcahtoa82 on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @04:15PM (#36686639)
lol right?

Halo would have been a flop if it was Mac exclusive.

Keep in mind, this was back in the year ~2000. Mac market share in the home user market was a rounding error. Schools were full of iMacs, but at home, it was all Windows.

Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by Retric on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @04:55PM (#36687096)
The entire point was Halo wouldn’t have been an anything exclusive. Bungee would have released it on all platforms at roughly the same timeframe.

“Due out in the first half of 2000, Halo will have a simultaneous release for PC and Mac, with multiplayer compatibility between the two operating systems. While you'll need a 3D card and a powerful system to take full advantage of the game's features, it'll be scalable so you can play it on less powerful machines.” http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9907/26/halo.idg/

Things got delayed ~18 months so Microsoft could port it to XBox thus waiting till November 2001. Then tacked on another 2 years to release it on Mac.

Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by delfinom on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:27PM (#36683322)
Halo: CE was released for mac on 2003, published by Microsoft

https://www.halopedia.org/Halo:_Combat_Evolved_for_Macintosh

Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by Retric on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:49PM (#36683665)
Yes, in 2003 not 2000 which is when they would have gotten it without Microsoft fucking them over.

First Halo was delayed to port it to windows and XBox on top of that two years after its initial release they let the already working Mac version out the door. That’s a huge fuck you by any standard.

On top of this Halo 2 etc was XBox and Windows exclusive fuck PS owners, fuck Mac owners, and fuck the free market.

Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by lesuorac on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @02:03PM (#36684811)
> Ehm, allow me to remind everyone what I heard about Twitter censorship for years.. If Sony doesn’t like it, they can make their own Call of Duty.

Maybe Microsoft should argue this point instead. But they didn't. They argued that they would allow CoD on multi-platforms so it's only reasonable to expect people to respond to that point.

It's a bit similar to how some people said that the posts deserved to be deleted while others said those people should just make their own twitter. Depending on whose talking and their argument you need to change your response. Using a response that the posts shouldn't've have been deleted to somebody who said you should make your own twitter is a non-sequitor.

Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by SV_BubbleTime on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @03:44PM (#36686287)
>Maybe Microsoft should argue this point instead. But they didn't. They argued that they would allow CoD on multi-platforms so it's only reasonable to expect people to respond to that point.

That's just basic business. If I buy a shoe factory, I'm going to say of course I'll sell them to Canadians! I wouldn't say "Eh, stuff it Canada, go make your own shoes!" even if my own internal plans didn't prioritize exports.

Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by lesuorac on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @04:40PM (#36686926)
But there's nothing dishonest with Canada trying to block the purchase on the shoe factory on the grounds that they don't believe you'll actually sell to them considering they legitimately don't believe you.
Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by SV_BubbleTime on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @08:53PM (#36689152)
What is dishonest about MS buying Activision? Something that hasn’t happened yet but you are judging them on regardless?
Re:Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard by lesuorac on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @11:30PM (#36690155)
Well, your comment is flagged so I can no longer quote from it.

But from what I remember is that you were accusing people of being dishonest because they said that Twitter could have an alternative but people aren't saying that Sony can just make a CoD alternative.

And I'm saying its not dishonest because A) its different people and B) Microsoft made a claim and these response are directly in response to that claim.