Why privatisation has been a costly failure in Britain

Re:Why privatisation has been a costly failure in Britain by smcl on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @11:06AM (#36682065)

I don't think you understand what these companies do if you believe Thames Water is in competition with Evian or Brita. Remember they're not just providing drinking water but handling the treatment, recirculation and safe disposal of wastewater too. So in addition to having inadequate storage for some parts of England and cutting back maintenance to the extent that they lose an enormous amount in leaks, one of the bigger problems is how they're failing to adequately dispose of wastewater. As a consequence of this there are some rivers, lakes and beaches in England + Wales that are now unsafe but which weren't before they were privatised.

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Re:Why privatisation has been a costly failure in Britain by darkclouds on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @01:27PM (#36684286)

> As a consequence of this there are some rivers, lakes and beaches in England + Wales that are now unsafe but which weren't before they were privatised.

Carefully chosen words, someone has done their research!

Thats what happens when new standards come into force and improve upon the old standards.

https://environment.data.gov.uk/portalstg/home/item.html?id=...

"The purpose of this dataset is to present a summary of bathing water compliance in England between 1988 and 2014 against the old bathing water directive (76/160/EEC), which was repealed on the 31/12/2014"

However I'm not against better standards, but I am against some of the "engineered" methods used to gain those standards....

https://www.ciwem.org/the-environment/how-should-water-and-e....

As I was saying, some things are engineered....

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Re:Why privatisation has been a costly failure in Britain by smcl on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @07:05PM (#36688394)

You're going to have to do a bit more than hand-waving about a bathing water directive being repealed back in 2014 and dumping a couple of links. If you want to make a point, make it.

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Re:Why privatisation has been a costly failure in Britain by darkclouds on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @09:26AM (#36694190)

There's lots of factors at play here, it could be brexit related because the beachs have become soiled so people go to Europe for a break, we dont know who is invested in Thames water, are these british pension funds or other types of investors. Is this a sexism thing, what with a female ceo, has she been wrongly advised, manipulated with data presented in a particular way.

There's so many factors potentially at play here and some of it we wont get to ever know about, but life has taught me there is manipulation in many guises.

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Re:Why privatisation has been a costly failure in Britain by smcl on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @03:42PM (#36700561)

Wait before you were certain I was some sneaky trickster doing wordplay and that you had a slam dunk of a response, now “there’s lots of factors at play here”?

What changed?

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Re:Why privatisation has been a costly failure in Britain by darkclouds on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @04:50PM (#36701473)

Nothing has changed, I simply didnt document all my thoughts on here straight away because its not a Rorschach test, besides I let google suggest some of the links, because I've noted how manipulative it is at shaping public discourse.

An upgrade to Eli Parsier's original filter bubble warning, one might say. https://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_b...

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