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Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by rjzzleep on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @10:18AM (#36681324)
From what I've seen big enterprises have thousands of RHEL or SLES licenses and the whole thing is managed by one guy who can hardly migrate from RHEL 7 to RHEL 8 because of the huge backlog of work he has.

For the average enterprise switching from SLES to SUSE RHEL means that update will happen in 5-7 years

Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by SoftTalker on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @11:16AM (#36682187)
Had to laugh at that, as I still have a good deal of RHEL/CentOS 7 and I'm the "one guy" managing these systems.

I've been migrating to Ubuntu or retiring systems for the last two years and still not done. Hoping to be rid of RHEL 7 before updates stop.

Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by BizarroLand on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @01:31PM (#36684350)
I've done a few of those RHEL/CentOS/Ubuntu moves myself, and even though it was a pain I'm still somewhat impressed over how painless the actual move was when I had good documentation and also still terrified of what it feels like to try to transition undocumented boxes.

I dislike windows and the M$ ecosystem but as far as server management for undocumented servers it's much easier to deal with them than for Linux stuff. For an undocumented Windows server, you send out an email, wait 2 weeks, shut it down and listen for the screams.

For an undocumented Linux server, you send out an email, wait 2 weeks, prep the fire extinguishers, batten the hatches, and wait for the mob of angry villagers to storm the DC with pitchforks because thanks to you their print server for their paper checks is now printing in Klingon and it can't be fixed without resurrecting the guy that wrote the software 6 days before he died of terminal terminal disease.

Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by woleium on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @02:01PM (#36698955)
so what you're saying is nothing business critical runs on Windows?
Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by BizarroLand on Thursday July 13, 2023 @01:28PM (#36712853)
No. Just that Windows servers are much easier to navigate to find what files and systems are running.

With Linux systems, sure, you can check chron and top and find what is running and where it is but it's a bit more unwieldy than the windows GUI, plus you don't always have a full list of the file and folder permissions and getting a full list of those requirements for whichever softwares are accessing them.

Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by woleium on Thursday July 13, 2023 @06:15PM (#36716872)
Oh, I see, that makes sense.
Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by Thetawaves on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @12:41PM (#36683539)
You struck a nerve on this one ;)
Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by type0 on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @10:33PM (#36689801)
No biggie, they could always outsource it to IBM and they'll do it in 4 years.