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Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by Dalewyn on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @07:25AM (#36679438)
This is otherwise known as "industry standard".

Changing an industry standard isn't impossible, but it will be a paradigm shifting challenge akin to moving mountains.

Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by grey_earthling on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @07:56AM (#36679713)
If I were Rocky, Alma, Oracle and/or SUSE, I'd be collaborating to define our own point-release schedule off CentOS Stream*, and trying to make our blessèd commits usurp Red Hat's as industry standard.

* with blackjack! and public git repos!

Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by LeFantome on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @01:37AM (#36690810)
SUSE might do that.

Rocky, Alma, and Oracle cannot do that because they are never going to write the documentation, do the testing, or provide the certifications that make a RHEL release a RHEL release.

The point releases of a RHEL fork are meaningless unless they are identical to RHEL. If you cannot get real RHEL, your better off with CentOS Stream than an incompatible point release.

Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by grey_earthling on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @06:41PM (#36702655)
> they are never going to write the documentation, do the testing, or provide the certifications that make a RHEL release a RHEL release.

That's precisely what I'm suggesting they attempt.

> The point releases of a RHEL fork are meaningless unless they are identical to RHEL.

Why? (I'm not trying to be belligerent here — I genuinely don't understand why.)

> If you cannot get real RHEL, your better off with CentOS Stream than an incompatible point release.

I thought CentOS Stream essentially is an incompatible point-release — or rather, RHEL is a point-release off CentOS Stream's rolling release.

Does Red Hat provide that much worse documentation for CentOS Stream than for RHEL?

I guess I just don't understand what is the “secret sauce” that makes CentOS Stream so useless, but RHEL so compelling (or even a rebranded-but-otherwise-identical rebuild of RHEL like CentOS 7).

Re:SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL by raincom on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @08:59PM (#36703806)
CentOS Stream and RHEL diverge. (a) many bug fixes are back ported to RHEL 9.x, but not to the Stream 9 at the same time (b) they fix bugs right away on RHEL 9.x, but delay them for a long time (c) some packages in the Stream are from the latest upstream, and many major versions ahead of the same in RHEL 9.x