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Re:Debate over 'fake work' in tech industry misses the real ... by ryoshu on Monday July 10, 2023 @09:23AM (#36666028)
Bad managers do that. Good managers accept accountability for the failures of their teams. Delegation makes a leader more accountable, not less.
Re:Debate over 'fake work' in tech industry misses the real ... by codesnik on Monday July 10, 2023 @09:37AM (#36666226)
I'd love to see an example of such an accepted accountability at least once in my life.
Re:Debate over 'fake work' in tech industry misses the real ... by Clubber on Monday July 10, 2023 @09:54AM (#36666476)
>I'd love to see an example of such an accepted accountability at least once in my life.

I think that's the point, you wouldn't see it. If a good manager gets unreasonably or unfairly reamed by his boss, he's probably not gonna tell his team about it, because it would be a blow to morale. If it was indeed the team's dysfunction, he'd try to improve it.

Re:Debate over 'fake work' in tech industry misses the real ... by kevinventullo on Monday July 10, 2023 @11:06AM (#36667524)
Next time there’s a re-org, look around for managers who net lost reports, or even “decided to move on”.
Re:Debate over 'fake work' in tech industry misses the real ... by cratermoon on Monday July 10, 2023 @01:05PM (#36669290)
When I "decided to move on", that included deciding that management was likely not in the cards for me again. Companies that have IC staff+ roles are what attract me now.
Re:Debate over 'fake work' in tech industry misses the real ... by lupire on Tuesday July 11, 2023 @09:14AM (#36680520)
And go work for them because they were busy working instead of backstabbing politics?

Meanwhile the most useless people are failing upward into CEO.

Re:Debate over 'fake work' in tech industry misses the real ... by arbitrage on Monday July 10, 2023 @12:24PM (#36668634)
I've seen it before. After that manager stepped in to help me, I would've stepped in front of a bus for him. That is the one time I had a manager like that in my entire career.

It's rare, but it does happen.

Re:Debate over 'fake work' in tech industry misses the real ... by 11101010001100 on Monday July 10, 2023 @11:02AM (#36667463)
If you need your job to live, and taking accountability means any non-zero probability of losing your job, would you take accountability? Of course it is easy to answer an hypothetical.