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Re:An Alerting Vista of macOS Sonoma by LakeBoat on Sunday July 09, 2023 @08:44PM (#36660654)
>The user-annoyance-factor difference between modern Windows and macOS is very slight.

You’re still wearing the rose-tinted glasses. MacOS is not able to (natively): 1. Allow the trackpad to scroll “natively” and a mouse to “normal” scroll. 2. Scale for an external display without a specific PPI. The PPI is so high there’s only a couple monitors that support it on the market. 3. Display crisp text on a non-high-PPI screen (as above). 4. Allow the user to edit or remove the horrendous mouse acceleration curve. 5. Allow users to select minimized windows with Alt+Tab. 6. Allow users to snap windows. 7. Etc etc.

I’m stunned I can’t scale stuff on my 4k monitor, adjust the mouse, or be productive with alt-tab.

Gorgeous hardware, but wow, I’m stunned you guys (and girls) can use this seriously.

Re:An Alerting Vista of macOS Sonoma by kstrauser on Sunday July 09, 2023 @08:54PM (#36660726)
On the other hand, I read that as a laundry list of “things to make it work exactly like Windows”. I’ve used a Mac for a lot of years now and none of those have ever bothered me.

I’m not saying you’re wrong for wanting them. I’m saying you’re wrong to assume that everyone else does, too.

Re:An Alerting Vista of macOS Sonoma by LakeBoat on Sunday July 09, 2023 @09:26PM (#36660949)
ChromeOS, Android, Windows, and Linux have almost all features I mentioned. But, I understand some don’t care.
Re:An Alerting Vista of macOS Sonoma by sofixa on Monday July 10, 2023 @02:50AM (#36662909)
Having two separate scroll directions available for mouse and touchpad is just basic common sense, not "make it work exactly like Windows". Pretty sure every OS/DE out there allows for that, except for macOS which does it in a subpar manner too (there are two separate toggles in two menus, one for mouse, one for touchpad, and they toggle each other...).
Re:An Alerting Vista of macOS Sonoma by 1over137 on Sunday July 09, 2023 @10:24PM (#36661294)
>Scale for an external display without a specific PPI.

Be happy they still let you use non-Apple external monitors! :)

Re:An Alerting Vista of macOS Sonoma by LakeBoat on Sunday July 09, 2023 @11:08PM (#36661595)
Ha! Hilarious you said that. I was planning on purchasing their display until I learned it’d take a decent effort to use it with my work laptop (windows). So, part way there?
Re:An Alerting Vista of macOS Sonoma by LoganDark on Monday July 10, 2023 @12:00AM (#36661907)
Hell, you even need a custom third-party driver to use the multitouch trackpads on Windows. They are the best trackpads money can buy though, so I use one with my desktop.
Re:An Alerting Vista of macOS Sonoma by novok on Monday July 10, 2023 @02:41AM (#36662854)
cmd-tab is program, then cmd-` to cycle through the windows of that program.

4k monitors also scale fine?

Re:An Alerting Vista of macOS Sonoma by vvillena on Monday July 10, 2023 @06:51AM (#36664524)
I agree with most of your points, save for alt-tab. macOS app and window management is completely different from Windows, and trying to use it like Windows only ends up hurting.

Minimizing a window in macOS takes it out of the working set. You can't quick switch to a minimized window, and it doesn't even show on Mission Control. You have to click the minimized window in the dock to bring it back. In short, minimizing a window is not just a visibility setting, but a workflow choice.