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Re:Harvard Discriminates Against Middle-Class Kids by pessimizer on Sunday July 09, 2023 @04:50PM (#36658747)
Why vicious and not virtuous?
Re:Harvard Discriminates Against Middle-Class Kids by pixelatedindex on Sunday July 09, 2023 @05:00PM (#36658834)
Because, like another person said, a large proportion of each class is either legacy or racially selected. There’s no virtue in following that method.
Re:Harvard Discriminates Against Middle-Class Kids by jonhohle on Sunday July 09, 2023 @05:18PM (#36659002)
Is virtue based on the input or the output? Are people from lower incomes leaving and becoming senators, presidents, ceos, etc, at a higher rate than elsewhere or does that remain the domain of the legacy students who were already politically equipped at birth?

Having a brilliant son who would have previously been discriminated against by Harvard’s admission process, I’m happy to see explicit race components removed. However, should he choose to apply and go (mostly to be connected to opportunities he otherwise wouldn’t have), if he leaves with a degree and nothing more, what good is it? The one Harvard professional peer I had came from the middle class, ended up at the same FAANG as me (who is just about as unconnected as one could be), and burned out in the process. Sample size of one, but it wasn’t an inspiring story.

Re:Harvard Discriminates Against Middle-Class Kids by pixelatedindex on Sunday July 09, 2023 @06:14PM (#36659512)
I’m talking about virtue from Harvard, and so it should be the input. If you have virtuous input, then your output should also be virtuous, unless the school is doing something that scrubs virtuous habits. Of course, I’m treating this as a black box that will admit anyone over a certain criteria, but that’s not reflective of the real world. So I don’t know if it’s based on input or output - so probably both?
Re:Harvard Discriminates Against Middle-Class Kids by kelnos on Sunday July 09, 2023 @05:07PM (#36658898)
Because giving the "Harvard stamp of approval" to people who were admitted mainly because they are legacy applicants is hardly virtuous.