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Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by fulltimeloser on Saturday July 08, 2023 @06:26AM (#36643077)
Is reanimating these bodies even viable? What kind of energy waste are we talking about for this fools errand?
Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by glimshe on Saturday July 08, 2023 @06:36AM (#36643121)
As far as I know you need to be dead already to be put in these facilities. So to get them back, we'd have to find a way to resuscitate them after "defrosting". The point of these facilities is exactly to wait for the technology to get them back to life.
Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by xk_id on Saturday July 08, 2023 @07:31AM (#36643411)
Before you even get to resuscitation, you would have to repair all of the fractured organs caused by thawing.

https://www.alcor.org/library/postmortem-examination-of-thre...

Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by PartiallyTyped on Saturday July 08, 2023 @07:36AM (#36643441)
I'd do what you propose tbh.
Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by glimshe on Saturday July 08, 2023 @11:02AM (#36645053)
I'd also consider it. But an interesting question would be: when should we do it?

Let's assume the doctor says that we have 1 year left but a reasonably good quality of life until death. Should we wait until we're a few days away from death, or go to freezing right after getting the "1 year left" news under the assumption that the disease isn't as advanced and thus wouldn't require as big of a technology leap for a cure?

If we wait, the chances of being cured after waking up are pretty low (we are almost dead already due to the disease), but we'd have lived an extra year.

If we don't wait, the chances of being cured are a lot higher (disease not as advanced) but we might not survive the whole freezing process at all, and thus waste a year of life.

Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by sschueller on Saturday July 08, 2023 @07:41AM (#36643473)
Isn't the definition of death not exactly clear and changing? A stopped heart for example used to mean dead but not anymore.
Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by jonsen on Saturday July 08, 2023 @10:01AM (#36644498)
But the point is that you don't actually die then, isn't it? So how can it be illegal?
Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by glimshe on Saturday July 08, 2023 @10:58AM (#36645014)
Freezing someone is lethal to them. We have no way of bringing someone back from this state, so it can be seen as a form of assisted suicide.
Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by qbrass on Sunday July 09, 2023 @02:58AM (#36652269)
They already do that.
Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by qbrass on Sunday July 09, 2023 @03:33AM (#36652439)
(thought this was an edit not a reply)

They basically have you fill your bathtub full of ice, pop some downers then jump in the tub.

Re:200 Frozen Heads and Bodies Await Revival at This Arizona... by zamalek on Saturday July 08, 2023 @10:10AM (#36644581)
The hard part is the freezing. You need to prevent water crystals from forming (which will rupture cells), and the freeze has to happen really quickly. This is why some insects can tolerate being frozen, they are small enough to freeze quickly.

Reanimation is the easy part (relatively speaking), even though we have no clue as to how to do it.

We don't have the technology to do this to humans yet, so chances are high that none of them are viable.