Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by marginalia_nu on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:07AM
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It's getting off topic, but the irony of a browser with a 2-4% user base pulling this shit can't be overstated.
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Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by mhluongo on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:10AM
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Why? They have a fixed budget after all.
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by marginalia_nu on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:19AM
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Because they're very much the victims of web designers with the same mindset, and if anyone should be the one to recognize how unfair throwing minority user groups under the bus can be.
It also doesn't really make strategic sense to focus on the lowest common denominator. Chrome already has that group. The one place they could eke out a loyal userbase is specifically the users that Chrome fails to capture because they have unusual needs or requirements.
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by marginalia_nu on Friday July 07, 2023 @11:12AM
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Actually when I think about it, it's even worse than this. Firefox has been on the receiving end of this type of discrimination more or less for as long as it's existed. It was the state of affairs when IE was the challenger too.
You have to be just mindbogglingly oblivious to not see how this has been one of their biggest problems the last 20 years.
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by suprfsat on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:15AM
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And those GPT-3.5 calls ain't cheap.
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by rcxdude on Friday July 07, 2023 @11:44AM
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In addition, this kind of thinking will attrit some of those 5% of users, so repeated application will shrink their market share even further. it's the excel problem: a huge number of features will only be used by a minority of users, but a majority of users use at least one of those features.
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by charcircuit on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:12PM
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With that logic you could say that 95% of users could keep leaving because you keep focusing on the minority use cases.
Would you rather attrite a fraction of 95% of your users or a fraction of 5% of your users.
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by rcxdude on Friday July 07, 2023 @02:09PM
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see the second half of my comment. You may lose 5% of your users with one particular removal, but if you keep doing it you'll lose most of them.
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by charcircuit on Friday July 07, 2023 @02:27PM
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Did you read my comment? If we had to remove one of two features and one of them was used by 5% of users and one of them was used by 95% of users wouldn't you like to know which one is which?
Without data you can invest your time into the wrong features.
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by rcxdude on Saturday July 08, 2023 @05:13AM
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or, you could not remove features
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by charcircuit on Saturday July 08, 2023 @12:03PM
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You were the one that brought up removing features.
Re:Fedora considers “privacy-preserving” telemetry
by soundnote on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:32PM
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They spent some of that budget on getting a freaking sneaker designer to make time-limited theme colo-- sorry, time-limited colorways and did a bunch of popups and cringe copy on it.
Meanwhile, Brave's vertical tabs were done by a single developer.