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Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon... by jkestner on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:53AM (#36616904)
> And most cops are trying to do the right thing.

Citation needed.

The slogan may be counterproductive to achieving its stated aim, but it's also opening the ol' Overton window to a range of possibilities beyond the usual vague but well-funded "reform". If that's what it takes to get a marketplace of ideas, I'd say it's productive.

Re:France passes bill to allow police remotely activate phon... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:00AM (#36617044)
> it's also opening the ol' Overton window to a range of possibilities beyond the usual vague but well-funded "reform". If that's what it takes to get a marketplace of ideas, I'd say it's productive.

Slogans like #ACAB and "defund the police" shut down debate on reform. They're most successful at consolidating the pro-police position with moderates by presenting the entire police-reform spectrum as anti-cop radicals.