Re:Earth entering ‘uncharted territory’ as heat records quic...
by damnesian on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:56AM
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> conservation doesn't work in the developed world: there's simply too much sacrifice required, too quickly.
I would add the corollary to this that those entities that profit from the products that are killing the environment are unlikely to be sufficiently de-incentivized by any large Capitalist or hybrid-Capitalist/Socialist society/economy.
Simply stated, superpowers like the US lack the intestinal fortitude to force megacorps- our biggest offenders- to change their ways any quicker than the torpor of a hibernating bear.
Re:Earth entering ‘uncharted territory’ as heat records quic...
by mcpackieh on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:38AM
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Even if the US had the will and inclination, it would take massive wars of conquest to impose that will on the rest of the world. Such wars would probably do more damage to the planet than they could ever hope to prevent. Forget using superpowers to solve this.
Re:Earth entering ‘uncharted territory’ as heat records quic...
by asah on Thursday July 06, 2023 @11:27AM
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yep - but even if they did have the intestinal fortitude, it still wouldn't be enough... so there's no need to get judgy when we can come together on this one, accept human nature and start looking for real solutions instead of "delay and pray" nonsense.
- conservation doesn't work in the developed world: there's simply too much sacrifice required, too quickly.
- conservation doesn't work in the developing world: no way will people agree to freeze development while watching rich people in the developed world.
- decarbonization/etc are cute but even if we did EVERYTHING and ASAP, it still wouldn't be close to enough.
I'll know we're serious about climate change when we invest $trillions into R&D and seriously consider large scale geoengineering, no idea too weird.
We're getting there: consider this $52B proposal ($100+B with the usual overruns) to temporarily protect NYC/NJ from sealevel rise: https://www.google.com/search?q=nyc+sea+level+rise+protectio... - now multiply to Miami, Jakarta and dozens of other cities.