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Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by judge2020 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:07AM (#36611117)
Has a lawyer weighed in on if this was actually legal? It’s concerning wiretap laws with participants in two different countries, so the legality might not be just “is it legal under Canada law”
Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by michaelmrose on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:13AM (#36611165)
Why would a Canadian talking on his Canadian phone service expect to be bound by the laws of a foreign country because a call terminated there.
Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by brightlancer on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:49AM (#36611415)
Expectation's got nothing to do with it.

Any country can claim jurisdiction on any action committed anywhere; the question is whether that country can reach you.

Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by pyuser583 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @01:28AM (#36611649)
Why would an American talking on an American phone service lack protection provided by American laws?
Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by justahuman74 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @01:59AM (#36611872)
Why would an American press 'Accept' on any telephone service, it's a wild-west of spam/scam calls.

What protection.

Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by misnome on Thursday July 06, 2023 @03:47AM (#36612601)
To hazard a guess, because they might possess more than a childs’ understanding of jurisdiction.
Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by InCityDreams on Thursday July 06, 2023 @04:25AM (#36612903)
Things get complicated once international, and state, borders are crossed.
Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by michaelmrose on Thursday July 06, 2023 @12:23PM (#36618401)
Legally because the recording takes place entirely in Canada. For practical purposes getting something prosecuted across national borders is incredibly complicated even for serious crimes that are crimes in both nations with clear jurisdiction and basically impossible beyond that scope.

In fact only an American would have the temerity to imagine that their laws might apply to someone in another country merely by calling them on the phone.

Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by aidenn0 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @02:17AM (#36612011)
If a Canadian, connecting to his Canadian ISP hacks into a computer in the US, if they aren't extradited, I think they should be cautious about traveling to the US.

The law exists to protect the person being recorded, so if the person being recorded is somewhere where the law is in effect, then it can be applied.

There is case-law supporting something similar within the US at least: if a person in e.g. California (where all parties' consent is needed) is recorded by a person in e.g. Virginia (where only one party's consent is needed) then they have violated the California law.

Re:Ban on Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US ... by zarzavat on Thursday July 06, 2023 @03:35AM (#36612537)
I don’t think recording and hacking are equivalent.

Recording is a passive act that entirely takes place entirely within the territory of the person doing the recording.

Whereas hacking involves accessing a computer system that is in a different jurisdiction, which necessarily involves actively communicating with it and sending it commands.

Recording a call is more like listening to a radio station. Countries may make it illegal to listen to certain communications, but as soon as those radio waves leave that jurisdiction then they are fair game for anyone who wants to listen to them.

Pretty much everybody should be cautious about entering the US!