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Re:Boom, Bubble, Bust: The Fiber Optic Mania [pdf] by hammock on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @08:06AM (#36599208)
This. Only a few years ago Hacker News commenters were crying out for new laws and regulations to subsidize the construction of Google Fiber to every home in America. “It’s a basic human right” they would say.

On the sideline there were a much, much smaller minority who looked at those comments in horror, with the context of knowing that wireless was a serious alternative that wasn’t that far away and was being broadly ignored

Re:Boom, Bubble, Bust: The Fiber Optic Mania [pdf] by MrBuddyCasino on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @08:25AM (#36599395)
The network neutrality discussion belongs in the same bucket. People thought it would be the end of the open internet if there wasn’t a dedicated regulation.
Re:Boom, Bubble, Bust: The Fiber Optic Mania [pdf] by scoopdewoop on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @10:15AM (#36600797)
There was dedicated regulation, it was just taken up by states instead of the FCC https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/12/telecom-industry-ass-kis...
Re:Boom, Bubble, Bust: The Fiber Optic Mania [pdf] by MrBuddyCasino on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @12:16PM (#36602588)
Interesting. I'm not sure "the entire west coast and huge swaths of the midwest and east coast have passed state-level net neutrality laws" is correct if this linked map is to be believed: https://www.naruc.org/nrri/nrri-activities/net-neutrality-tr...

Huge parts of the US apparently do not have such legislation, and it is unclear which states that "proposed" it have put it into law.

Re:Boom, Bubble, Bust: The Fiber Optic Mania [pdf] by dale_glass on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @10:10AM (#36600728)
I don't see the problem? I have FTTH. I can get 10 Gbps. I don't want wireless, it's an unreliable last resort. If I have the option I'm absolutely going with fiber.

It's also the better long term tech. Fiber has enormous capacity, while wireless is a shared medium impeded by things like walls, and those problems get worse with the increased frequencies needed for more bandwidth.

Re:Boom, Bubble, Bust: The Fiber Optic Mania [pdf] by sandworm101 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @10:24AM (#36600891)
>> wireless was a serious alternative that wasn’t that far away

But it really isn't. There are hard physics limits on how much data can be transmitted within a given frequency band. Fiber total theoretical bandwidth is is essentially infinite in comparison. All the traffic of the entire internet could probably flow through a single fiber bundle perhaps less than a meter wide. For things like streaming 4k/8k/12k (real 4/8/12k) to multiple devices, wifi will never compete with fixed lines.