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Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by w-m on Monday July 03, 2023 @06:25PM (#36579615)
Downloaded, saw "Sign in to start your free trial", which turned me off immediately unfortunately. So I'm probably not the intended audience - I'd like to have a fast, reliable Mac UI to use with my OpenAI API key.

So far I've been using Machato (https://untimelyunicorn.gumroad.com/l/machato), which has the perfect feature set for me, but despite its claims of being a native app, is just infuriatingly slow. You can't at all scroll in the app while it's producing text, and switching between conversations feels worse than using Slack.

So the search continues. What makes it so hard to produce a responsive native app, that there are so few of them out there?

Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by Terretta on Monday July 03, 2023 @06:35PM (#36579704)
Machato is the closest I've found as well, other than CLI / console tools or "roll your own".

Ability to set (and save) system contexts is critical. It's unclear to me why most apps don't enable this.

I can't get by without Machato's other innovation of suppressing earlier parts of the history I no longer need later in the conversation, making it straightforward to have 64k interactions with the 8k model.

Ability to fork and file conversations, as well as the cost monitoring, are gravy.

- https://untimelyunicorn.gumroad.com/l/machato

- https://github.com/sigoden/aichat

Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by replwoacause on Monday July 03, 2023 @11:07PM (#36581699)
I love Machato but I don’t understand why it’s performance on my M1 Mac is so abysmal
Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by fliife on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @06:38AM (#36584800)
Hi there ! Machato dev here.

Honestly, this is my first macOS app and I'm a bit out of ideas when it comes to performance. If anyone has tehcnical knowledge about SwiftUI and how I could improve performance, please do contact me ! ([email protected])

My experience has been that the SwiftUI Profiler shows that almost all processor time is spent deep inside SwiftUI/AppKit primitives, despite there being close to no updates to view properties.

I'm glad HN is enjoying the app despite those issues. I promise I'm doing my best !

Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by replwoacause on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @10:39AM (#36587339)
Yeah, Machato is great and the rate that you update it with new features is impressive. Keep up the good work! Hopefully some Mac app dev can chime in on what may be causing the performance issues. :)
Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by swyx on Monday July 03, 2023 @06:38PM (#36579737)
you might like mine! open source and compiling from source is encouraged. https://github.com/smol-ai/menubar
Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by w-m on Monday July 03, 2023 @06:45PM (#36579785)
I'd be interested to hear why your app will beat others in performance. Looking at the repo, it seems to be electron-based, so it's not obvious to me on why I should try it, if I'm looking for responsiveness.

Edit: had a closer look, it's a multi-app for different AI chatbots. Fun, but not at all what I'm looking for (responsive Mac interface to OpenAI API).

Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by swyx on Monday July 03, 2023 @08:51PM (#36580767)
:shrug: it works great for me lol. api is overrated. webview is the only way you'll get the full experience of all the chats
Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by evindor on Monday July 03, 2023 @07:12PM (#36580011)
My aim with this app was to provide a sleek macOS ChatGPT/GPT-4 experience for users who couldn't be bothered to sign up for Open AI developer account. Of course, along the way I considered that there is a sizeable audience who would prefer to avoid any third-party proxy and use their keys directly. Unfortunately, as mentioned by DerJacques in this thread, it is not certain that allowing this would pass Apple reviews. However, we could try? If I see enough interest in "bring your own keys" model, it could be possible to offer this version of the app outside the App Store. Would you be willing to pay ~$30 one-time purchase for such an app?
Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by w-m on Monday July 03, 2023 @07:41PM (#36580273)
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Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by sledgehammers on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @03:11AM (#36583256)
> it is not certain that allowing this would pass Apple reviews

Release the app outside the store? Fuck apple and their monopoly abuse control system.

Re:Show HN: Yet another macOS ChatGPT app by lessimore on Friday July 14, 2023 @10:06AM (#36724221)
Recently, I created a native mac software. I have not encountered any performance problems so far. It is still in the Beta version. It will be released here later. You can download it here for a trial first https://chattab.app