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Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by f311a on Monday July 03, 2023 @02:28PM (#36577017)
I’m so tired of this kind of marketing. Meanwhile, if your SSD dies on m1 macbook, the laptop becomes unrepairable. If Apple would care about ecology, they would at least allow to resolder it.
Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by hellking4u on Monday July 03, 2023 @02:37PM (#36577127)
Doesn't Apple repair the M1 Macbooks if you take it to the Apple Store? From what I've understood, the macbook repairability issue is more to do with Apple's pricing and self-repair than the device becoming e-waste.

Apple also, I think, offers trade-in for the devices, recycling the components and preventing them from becoming e-waste if the device is a total loss.

Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by f311a on Monday July 03, 2023 @02:40PM (#36577164)
Apple replaces the whole motherboard. That’s not repair, that’s at least $1500 worth of electronics thrown away for pro max models.
Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by whartung on Monday July 03, 2023 @02:50PM (#36577302)
That's the expedient field repair, but what happens to the motherboard afterword?

They're under no obligation to replace your motherboard with a "new" one, so it's possible that it goes back to the repair depot for actual diagnostics and repair by better trained and equipped technicians.

I have no idea, maybe they do just shred it and melt it down, but it sure doesn't seem efficient for Apple to simply toss the motherboard rather than try to repair it themselves, otherwise the repair would be vastly more expensive -- AppleCare or not.

Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by f311a on Monday July 03, 2023 @03:16PM (#36577566)
They charge you the full price of the motherboard when it’s out of warranty. Third party services can replaces SSDs on non-m1 models for 20-30% of what’s Apple charges.
Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by qingcharles on Monday July 03, 2023 @03:09PM (#36577499)
I bet if the ECU in your car dies a technician is unable to open it and replace anything. Everything has to have a limit. How many Xboxes were thrown away because of one bad component? It sucks, but if the company has at least some program in place to try to recover as much as possible from damaged/used parts, then that's a bonus. And Apple seems to have a decent program for their iPhones at least with robots to tear them into component pieces for recycling.
Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by wkat4242 on Monday July 03, 2023 @09:05PM (#36580852)
At least they don't replace the whole engine when the ECU fails. That would be more like what Apple is doing.
Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by manuelabeledo on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @05:23AM (#36597855)
They don't throw the motherboard away. It is recycled/upcycled.

If they didn't, their own warranty and repair program would be a money black hole.

Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by burnte on Monday July 03, 2023 @03:05PM (#36577456)
Everything is soldiers to the mainboard, so there's no parts to swap. They swap the whole board.
Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by gjsman-1000 on Monday July 03, 2023 @03:59PM (#36578017)
Sure. Same situation if your CPU, Chipset, PMIC, or any random capacitor or resistor dies on any other laptop. SSDs have achieved the point where a replacement from a failure is almost unheard of compared to other components failing first. Nobody complains their laptop CPU isn't socketed.

It's definitely a frustration for upgrades - but not really reliability anymore. When's the last time someone complained their phone's SSD died?

Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by wkat4242 on Monday July 03, 2023 @09:11PM (#36580902)
I'd love my CPU to be socketed actually. Though Intel's practice of changing sockets every generation defeats the purpose a bit.
Re:Use Clean Energy Charging on Your iPhone by f311a on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @03:34AM (#36583446)
One out of my three macbooks (that I ever had) died because of SSD. They have a limited lifespan. That's a common problem for 3-5 years old macbooks.