A chiseled look not enough to land someone on its own, but it absolutely will get you a conversation from women who otherwise would not have even talked to you.

> What women say they are attracted to, and what they respond positively to IRL, are not the same.

There are different women with different preferences. This comment, on its face, doesn't sound like you're talking about a singular woman, but lamenting the fact that one woman is not upfront about the preferences of...another woman she's never met.

- after I started lifting, I started getting attention and conversations I did not get before

- young men are not complete idiots, and can observe that this is true

I had women attracted to me both times, but the type of woman was very different. I also got groped and felt up far more and other far more overt displays of interest by women when muscled.

> The heavily muscled male look is more of a male fantasy than female.

Visit your local bookstore (if there still is one!) and tell me what the men on the covers of those romance novels look like.