Putting the personality of the owner aside, they have been running an experiment for the last few months on how to operate a tech company, overworking your engineers and treating them like replaceable automata. Do you want them to succeed and set that as an example for others to follow?

Yep. And it's hard to separate the personality of the owner from this—the more successful Musk is, the more that he's seen as the next Steve Jobs, the higher my odds of ending up working for a Musk wannabe. He is not a good leader, and the sooner his leadership style blows up in his face the better for all of us.

Every social network and large tech company has awful people running it? And I'm yet to see anything beyond "an anonymous source" on this apparent overworking.

If you work for a large US tech company, you are replacable automata. How do people not know this? Am I the crazy one here?

Don't you know anyone who used to work there? I've worked for a large US tech company, and no, it was not the same.

Every CEO of the top tech companies would be fired for the kind of controversy Musk has monthly.

Musk gets away with it because he's the owner but most social media and tech companies aren't led by this awful people.

Not Twitter, the racist bullshit artist who bought it.

How is he racist? Can you cite an example?

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Yeah you seem like the “fun dad” alright.

So made up reasons.

> Not Twitter, the racist bullshit artist who bought it.

Can you explain why a racist would give internet access (Starlink) to 50 schools in Rwanda? https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1671930585475055618

Is this the philanthropic "I can't be racist! I have Black friends!" reply?

The person I replied to claimed that Musk is racist without providing any evidence.

Unless you disagree that everyone holds unintentional racist views because of implicit bias (https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-40124781) I am curious why Musk is being singled out as being more racist than the average person.

I think people’s actions speak louder than words, and unless he is also intentionally funding institutions or causes that actively perpetuate racism or racist systems, I’m not convinced of the purity of intention behind the accusation.

If he is such a big racist, why would the Biden administration contract SpaceX? What judgment would you pass on them?

So I’ll repeat again, because I want to educate myself: what is the evidence of Musk’s racism?

Elon Musk Belittles Black Twitter and His Black Employees - https://www.theroot.com/elon-musk-belittles-black-twitter-an...

If Twitter fails, all the "day in the life of an X" Tiktoks come back.

See? You just can't run a real tech company unless you have 20 product managers and 50 paper pushers assigned to every minor change with no more than 30 minutes of actual work per week! Oh and none of them can be white or asian males because diversity, but you must pay them all an unreasonably high six figure salary with the same benefits and Disney-like campus experience as your most coveted talent.

Obviously I'm being dramatic, but there is a non-zero sized cohort that thinks like this and nothing would validate their existence and narrative, like Twitter failing.

The major tech companies outsource stuff that matters - I mean, for 20 years at least - to contracted outside companies who pay 1/10th the amount to Americans in "flyover" country and even less to offshore employees.

They do this because SWE prima donnas will not do an adequate job for some things no matter how much you pay them. Like, oh, say, cleaning the office microwave.

So I guarantee you that you are overlooking most of the actual work "at" any given large tech corp.

Source: working for a BPO company with offices in Appalachia, Manila, and Uttar Pradesh, among others.

P.S. "cleaning the office microwave" is sarcasm...a placeholder for an infinite collection of jobs, some programming and some not.

BPO = Business Process Outsourcing

I've got a rule of thumb, if a communication network is so large that governments who control nuclear arms use it to communicate "just ignore it" doesn't really work

Personally, not just twitter, all social media I’m happy to see it dies, and no, “stop using it” mindset isn’t an argument when it severely affects the majority of the people around you, and start not just influencing the populace opinions but shaping the next generation. Who ever controls that narrative in the media get to decide what’s the next laws to be considered, after all, that’s how democracy works.

Twitter is basically smoking. You don't have to use it to be affected, you just have to be downwind.

It was easier to ignore this when they had a more benevolent dictator.

Some people signed up for Twitter, years ago, specifically to avoid other people using their name. I think it was a thread on HN.

Once you are signed up, it's tempting to use it. Then you realize it's a bad idea to use it, but it takes self-control.

Now, with the current leadership, who knows if they will purge inactive accounts and/or reissue IDs.

I don't know if this scenario accounts for much of the antagonism, but it is one possibility. It is possible that some people don't like it, but can't let go of it completely, and the new management creates uncertainty and doubt that never ends.

That social network shut prominet scientists voice during the COVID that's why many people like me hate it